Salary and applying for a new job.

[Backtobasics]

I have applied for a new role outside of the company I work for, the challenge is it's pretty much the same job as I do now, however its an 80-110% increase in salary. Now I would prefer to not tell them what I am on currently (for obvious reasons), so will say something like "I would prefer to keep that out of the discussion". But if pressed would you bend the truth? (just to point out I'd be a bit uncomfortable doing that, but don't want low balling)

thanks

[crazy about cars]

Depending on role but most employers (or agents) will definitely ask for current salary so they are sure that they are interviewing the right person for the role.

80-110% sounds like a massive leap so you will most probably will be asked that question.

[myvision]

Why don't you ask your current employer why you are getting paid appittance 80/110% increase for the same job?

[davepoth]

"Boost" your salary as much as you can by being vague, i.e anything above £20k is "mid 20s"; I may give some thought to making clear the non-salary benefits of the place you are currently working (healthcare, pension, bonus, etc.) by way of explaining it too.

[Backtobasics]

myvision said:

Why don't you ask your current employer why you are getting paid appittance 80/110% increase for the same job?

We've known for a long time that we get paid a pittance for what the dept does, but have accepted it as the job has other perks that have until now outweighed the joke of a salary. We have made it very clear that we all know we are getting ripped off, the response has been "leave then"

[Gargamel]

What would you realistically be happy with. Would a 20% increase be good for you, because in my opinion that is what is likely.

Unless the other firm have lots of people on the same money, grade, job etc in which case they may prefer to use there own benchmark.

1. if asked straight, don.'t lie.

2. indicate that whilst salary isn't your only motivation, in you current role you feel you have fallen a long way behind the market, and that it is one of your reasons for leaving. This way they will be aware you have an idea of the going rate.

3, Is your expectation realistic, and are you sure it is the same job?

[iwantagta]

Not something you should lie about in my opinion.

The role is obviously advertised at a certain rate, if they offer you less than advertised then negotiate it back to the level you want it.

If you lie and get found out then you could lose your new job or, at a minimum, it will make them think less of you stunting future opportunities.

[driver67]

I'm sure your new employer would find out the truth from your p45 (e.g. gross to date for current tax year)

[davepoth]

driver67 said:

I'm sure your new employer would find out the truth from your p45 (e.g. gross to date for current tax year)

Exactly. Never lie about things that your new employer will definitely find out about.

[Backtobasics]

3, Is your expectation realistic, and are you sure it is the same job?



- 2 page job spec from potential employer is a 90% match for my own currently. The new role salary range starts 80% above my salary, so that would be my min starting point.

[Gargamel]

Backtobasics said:

3, Is your expectation realistic, and are you sure it is the same job?



- 2 page job spec from potential employer is a 90% match for my own currently. The new role salary range starts 80% above my salary, so that would be my min starting point.

So if they offered you a 75% increase as a final offer would you reject it ?

or 50% increase?

I work in recruiting, for a large multinational, we do look at the size of increase, but we also look at skills, experience and internal benchmarks ( ie people doing the same role)

If they offer you lower be an adult about it, ask when reviews take place, ask if you will be in a team, will your salary be similar to the team etc. Show a bit of willingness, it goes a long way in these situations.

[Backtobasics]

Gargamel said:

Backtobasics said:

3, Is your expectation realistic, and are you sure it is the same job?



- 2 page job spec from potential employer is a 90% match for my own currently. The new role salary range starts 80% above my salary, so that would be my min starting point.

So if they offered you a 75% increase as a final offer would you reject it ?

or 50% increase?

I work in recruiting, for a large multinational, we do look at the size of increase, but we also look at skills, experience and internal benchmarks ( ie people doing the same role)

If they offer you lower be an adult about it, ask when reviews take place, ask if you will be in a team, will your salary be similar to the team etc. Show a bit of willingness, it goes a long way in these situations.

Taken all your advice on board, much appreciated. Will make sure I dont behave like a 2 year old who's had his optimus prime taken off him if I'm fortunate enough to get offered the role and we start talking salary.

[Gargamel]

Hope you get it, best of luck!