A Falkland's question?
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Digger said:
I could look the answer up but . . .
So then. . . I know it will get answered before the programme finishes but after the bombing run how does the Vulcan make it home with limited fuel and no more refuelling ie where does she land if its not Ascension?!
Diagram on the wiki page. So then. . . I know it will get answered before the programme finishes but after the bombing run how does the Vulcan make it home with limited fuel and no more refuelling ie where does she land if its not Ascension?!
Sorry...Saw the programme today and two things seemed odd.
1) Where did the Vulcan that was short of fuel land?
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
3) He broke radio silence when it was too late to help and for no reason.
1) Where did the Vulcan that was short of fuel land?
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
3) He broke radio silence when it was too late to help and for no reason.
Simpo Two said:
1) Where did the Vulcan that was short of fuel land?
Asi, tankers were launched for the recovery phase of the Mission.Simpo Two said:
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
While Command may well not be a Democracy there are times when it is good Captaincy to take onboard the opinions of subordinates, especially when you may be committing your crew and yourself to a watery grave. It's called Leadership, it doesn't mean you can't over ride the Crew's opinion.Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Sunday 6th January 00:29
All aircraft on Blackbuck 1 (the subject of the documentary) returned safely to Ascension.
Link here details all 7 Blackbuck missions:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/OperationBlackBuck.c...
BB6 saw a Vulcan landing in Rio de Janeiro.
Link here details all 7 Blackbuck missions:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/OperationBlackBuck.c...
BB6 saw a Vulcan landing in Rio de Janeiro.
Simpo Two said:
Saw the programme today and two things seemed odd.
1) Where did the Vulcan that was short of fuel land?
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
3) He broke radio silence when it was too late to help and for no reason.
1, Back at Wideawake having completed its mission. The Vulcan was refuled again off the coast of Brazil several hundred miles further south than was initially planned. The last Victor also had to take on more fuel some 3 hours short of home which hadn't been planned, fortunately when the first lot of Victors came home it was pretty obvious the Vulcan had a drink problem.1) Where did the Vulcan that was short of fuel land?
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
3) He broke radio silence when it was too late to help and for no reason.
2, The Victor captain asked his crew as they needed to help with the calculations Tuxford wasn't supposed to be flying the last leg. Withers asked his crew already knowing what the answer would be.
3, The break in radio silence was an abort discussion between the two pilots when Tuxford had given as much fuel as he could to the Vulcan. BB1 fuel planning was unfortunately a long way off due to the Vulcan being overweight and cruising at less than its most efficient attitude for much of the flight south.
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Simpo Two said:
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
While Command may well not be a Democracy there are times when it is good Captaincy to take onboard the opinions of subordinates, especially when you may be committing your crew and yourself to a watery grave. It's called Leadership, it doesn't mean you can't over ride the Crew's opinion.Even when it isn't.
Simpo Two said:
Saw the programme today and two things seemed odd.
2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
The tail gunner was primarily a lookout, if the tail gunner suggested evasive action Gibson would take this seriously.2) When they realised they didn't have enough fuel, the pilot asked the crew to vote on what to do. It's not a democracy, the pilot is captain. Did Guy Gibson ask his tail gunner what to do? I think not!
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