Cosworth investment
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Syd Wilson

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54 posts

165 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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For not a lot of money i think the Escort RS Cosworth is solid investment and mega fun at the same time not many genuine ones left now.

http://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=42783

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Oh, really?
They haven't moved in price much over the last few years, not so sought after as an RS500 or early Sierra Cosworth.

Red 4

10,744 posts

216 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Depends how much you pay and what you get for your money (sorry to quote the obvious).

3 door Sierra (a good one) is a better bet imo although good ones are increasingly rare. And they drive better.


555 Paul

788 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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That one isn't that well priced and for not much more you could buy a 22B. If you want to invest in a Cosworth buy a tidy Sapphire because they are the ones that are rising in value wink

griffter

4,143 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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The lack of price movement is the point though isn't it? 3 door Sierras have already taken off. Maybe the OP thinks the escort could be the next big thing. He might be right but (correct me if I'm wrong) the 3 door Sierra has rally and touring car race provenance, the escort only the former. I'm a bit hazy on the details but wasn't there an early 'big turbo' version of the escort? I'd have thought those would be the investment choice.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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griffter said:
The lack of price movement is the point though isn't it? 3 door Sierras have already taken off. Maybe the OP thinks the escort could be the next big thing. He might be right but (correct me if I'm wrong) the 3 door Sierra has rally and touring car race provenance, the escort only the former. I'm a bit hazy on the details but wasn't there an early 'big turbo' version of the escort? I'd have thought those would be the investment choice.
yes Rings a bell. Early ones has a T3 turbo, later ones a smaller T25 to reduce lag. WTF I remember that for I dunno, too long reading 'Fast Ford' as a teenager I guess.

9mm

3,128 posts

239 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Syd Wilson said:
For not a lot of money i think the Escort RS Cosworth is solid investment and mega fun at the same time not many genuine ones left now.

http://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=42783
£20K? Best of luck with that. Ford fanboys might like it but most people wouldn't be seen dead in it. A GT40 it ain't.

555 Paul

788 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Hooli said:
yes Rings a bell. Early ones has a T3 turbo, later ones a smaller T25 to reduce lag. WTF I remember that for I dunno, too long reading 'Fast Ford' as a teenager I guess.
Early ones had a T34 if I remember correctly.

GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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From memory, the first few thousand cars (built 1992 to 1994 (I think) used a Garett T3, there was a update in about 1994 that switched to a Garett T2.5 and also had a redesigned head and had a lot less lag (never driven one, just recall from reading Performace Car Mag 20 years ago).

I have never liked the idea of using classics as a speculative investment, you will only be disappointed when the bottom falls out of the market. I really hope that the car mags and forums don't just turn in to people trying to talk up the market.

MarkwG

5,920 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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That one is very pretty, but it's too much to be an investment, & it's in a bit of a marmite colour. I think they will stabilise & rise, they were great cars, they didn't make many, there's abit of competition history & the people who loved them most generally couldn't afford them at the time, which puts them into the "aspirational classic from my youth" market. Ditch the silly headlamps, do some checks & haggle hard, & this one http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f... might hold it's value & climb a little over time.

Odhran

579 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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Wtf. Serious déjà vu! I just looked at those two exact cars before I went to bed last night.

dartissimus

954 posts

203 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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GrizzlyBear said:
I really hope that the car mags and forums don't just turn in to people trying to talk up the market.
Too late, the bubble's burst, the media is full of talk of classic cars as investments, so when it reaches the newspapers it's peaked.
History is there to be learned from.
It's the property market of late '07/ early '08 all over again. Or like a car, overheating before going bang

Classic cars aren't really for money making, they're to enjoy, and if bought wisely might appreciate and not be a total moneypit, although there's no guarantee.

Travis Mcgee

314 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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dartissimus said:
Classic cars aren't really for money making, they're to enjoy, and if bought wisely might appreciate and not be a total moneypit, although there's no guarantee.
Couldn't agree more, Sir

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

253 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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Anything Ford Cosworth or RS ford is a cast iron investmernt, it's just how long must you wait.... And not paying over the odds now.

Just don't buy a chavved-up stter with a dubious past, get a clean original one, or a rare colour, original of course, or if you get a modified one make sure it has been done by a well known company ( with provenance ) which will hold kudos for the next generations. No different from any other car built for homologation or racing purpose. It's day will certainly come, it's just when.....


iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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Buying the one OP linked could be a good gamble at £20K for a REALLY clean low miles car.

Some go for a LOT more ,some like mine are worth less than £10K ....seriously.

To clarify T34 was fitted to early homologation and subsequent production cars.

T25 fitted to later cars with other body and trim updates and they do drive better but are

far less tuneable due to turbo size.

In other words if you are chasing big BHP start with a big turbo model but on the other hand if you

are chasing REALLY high BHP most of the original stuff gets binned anyway so either model will do.

Still following this ?confused

markymarkthree

3,595 posts

200 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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This Rouse Cosworth is up for auction tomorrow at Shepton Mallet.


jonah35

3,940 posts

186 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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I doubt you'll lose much on an escort cosworth, theyre lovely cars.

However, as most of the posters have said a sierra 3door cosworth is likely to rise more as its:
Rarer
Better to drive
Has pedigree and history
Is older
Good ones getting hard to find
Often voted number one fast ford of all time.

Any good 3door for £14k doesnt seem a bad bet, especiallly a white one!


GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Saturday 9th February 2013
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dartissimus said:
Too late, the bubble's burst, the media is full of talk of classic cars as investments, so when it reaches the newspapers it's peaked.
History is there to be learned from.
It's the property market of late '07/ early '08 all over again. Or like a car, overheating before going bang

Classic cars aren't really for money making, they're to enjoy, and if bought wisely might appreciate and not be a total moneypit, although there's no guarantee.
I wonder if those in power will chuck endless amounts of our money at the market to make sure an E30 M3 remains unaffordable!