I love my car but it eats tyres.....
I love my car but it eats tyres.....
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pjac67

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2,040 posts

276 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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I am at the end of my second set of rears (Toyo 245/40/ZR17 T1Sport) after <6000m frown

T1R's were no longer available and I know T1 Sports are a softer compound but 2900 miles ..... they're not 888's ....

Toyo kindly contributed 50% after the first set but I am after recommendations for a slightly longer lasting solution without giving up my sublime handling/performance/grip etc

I do not do track days, drifting or sprints/ qu. mile(that's on my list...evil) and have averaged only 2 or 3 (v. childish I know) donuts per set.

1. Should I just stick with them as they perform so well (apart from longevity);
2. Is it OK to mix makes (have Toyos on the front)?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Paul.

LuckyLucky

22,455 posts

228 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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I have always thought that the T1Rs were a bit of a budget tyre and thought that the grip wasn't up to the cars performance.

I run triple 8s on the road and track, they wear quite well considering!

I have just ordered a set of Toyo R1Rs that should be pretty awesome but you will pay the price in wear, you can't have everything!

Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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I've got some Toyo T1R's with 4-5mm of tread on them had them for 5 years...... so they do last (well they have been sitting in the shed for 4 years hehe )

I was running Kumho V70A's (their equivalant of 888), as I prefered the grip, but was only getting approx 3k miles per set.....

Moved to the R1R's which I must say have been fantastic in this wet weather, making the car driveable in a manner I would not of considered on the V70A's...... however I'm not expecting them to last long, as they are made from same/similar compound to the 888's just with tread pattern more suitable for road use IMHO

Russell Mc

573 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Hoover what sizes are you using as last time I check the R1R wasn't available in the standard precat sizes?

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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I have T1Rs on my Griffith that were fitted in 2007 and I've done about 35,000 miles on them. They're about due for a change but still legal, I've seen them listed as available. I heard that T1S's wore so not keen.

leerdam23

606 posts

285 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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When was the last time you had a full 4 wheel geometry check?

5.0ltr

2,832 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Bear in mind you do not have a standard car there, it may come with an `on` cost? But geo set up would be a start.

griffdude

1,896 posts

272 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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leerdam23 said:
When was the last time you had a full 4 wheel geometry check?
+1

Hoover.

5,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Russell Mc said:
Hoover what sizes are you using as last time I check the R1R wasn't available in the standard precat sizes?
with out checking, but I'm pretty sure 205/50/15 & 225/50/16

The fronts are a slightly lower profile then the standard 55...... but I've been running this profile for the last 4-5 years when I switched to the Kumho's, so I just stayed with it as it works.

blitzracing

6,419 posts

244 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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griffdude said:
leerdam23 said:
When was the last time you had a full 4 wheel geometry check?
+1
+1

To much toe in or out will eat tyres.

pjac67

Original Poster:

2,040 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Thanks for the replies - T1R's don't seem to be available in my size (other than from foreign sites...?).

Will need to try alternatives - any recommendations/views on mixing manufacturers front/rear....

My last tracking and camber adjustment only did the fronts following suspension works so I guess I need to get the rears properly checked when new boots are fitted - is there any particular settings etc (not really sure what I am talking about..?).

LuckyLucky

22,455 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Just go to a recommended expert.

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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blitzracing said:
griffdude said:
leerdam23 said:
When was the last time you had a full 4 wheel geometry check?
+1
+1

To much toe in or out will eat tyres.
+1

How are they wearing? got pictures?

LuckyLucky

22,455 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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LuckyLucky said:
Just go to a recommended expert.
Ah, see, I just typed it and one came along!

pjac67

Original Poster:

2,040 posts

276 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Wear is very even across the tread - same as the last set.

LuckyLucky

22,455 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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The rears could have too much toe in or out, wear would be even, only one way to check!

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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pjac67 said:
Wear is very even across the tread - same as the last set.
If the wear is perfectly even It's most likely you're driving to fast biggrin

roseytvr

1,790 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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pjac67 said:
and have averaged only 2 or 3 donuts per set.
Sounds like a block of wood under the throttle may help reduce the wear hehe

Quietlybonkers

22,154 posts

168 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Sixty quid plus VAT will get you a full four wheel alignment. Get one before you trash several hundred quids worth of more tyres. Best if you go to a TVR specialist with the aligner - they will know the correct settings. Mine does, and the car handles so much better as well. He's in Norfolk, but there should be one your way. Worth every penny