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Raph C

Original Poster:

117 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Well, not quite!

Looking at an M reg (94) Classic Range Vogue SE that last turned a wheel 18 month ago. Dry stored since. 120k miles but Looking in good to very good condition.

Apart from pumping up the tyres and getting a new battery, what should I expect to have to do on it to make it run safely?

Thanks for your help !

Raph.

camel_landy

5,417 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Typically it'll be things like oil seals drying out and flat spots on the tyres. If it has been idle for a long time, the bushes can start to perish but I would have thought that most things will be OK.

Change the fluids, pump up the tyres and see how you get on.

M

superlightr

12,920 posts

287 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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put new tyres on at least. The old will be vulconised/damaged walls.

Pothole

34,367 posts

306 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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superlightr said:
put new tyres on at least. The old will be vulconised/damaged walls.
Vulcanisation is a chemical process for converting rubber or related polymers into more durable materials via the addition of sulphur or other equivalent "curatives" or "accelerators". These additives modify the polymer by forming crosslinks (bridges) between individual polymer chains.

How does that process occur when a vehicle is left standing?

Raph C

Original Poster:

117 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Thanks guys so far.

What about the pneumatic rear suspension? Is it likely to give issues, having been seating there for 18 month. I know it is not reliable anyway but the current owner had it all refurbished not long before he stopped using the car.

Thanks.

Raph.

camel_landy

5,417 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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You won't really know until you fire it up...

M

47p2

1,727 posts

185 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Calipers could start sticking once you press it into daily use

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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18 months is not that long. Just look around it and get it running and sort what needs sorting. It's not a complex vehicle.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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The important question here is: why was it taken off the road 18 months ago.....?

cpas

1,661 posts

264 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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18 months is not that long. 18 years might be a different story...

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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Yes, but it was still put away for a reason.

About 8 years ago, I bought a barn stored 1958 SII, with 7,000 on the clock and one owner. I had to do some work to get it back on the road. Then, on it's first trip out, I got about 20 miles from home and the clutch failed. I'm guessing that is why it was laid up in the first place.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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JumboBeef said:
Yes, but it was still put away for a reason.

About 8 years ago, I bought a barn stored 1958 SII, with 7,000 on the clock and one owner. I had to do some work to get it back on the road. Then, on it's first trip out, I got about 20 miles from home and the clutch failed. I'm guessing that is why it was laid up in the first place.
That they new the clutch would fail if they drove it another 20 miles so parked it up? Not convinced.

camel_landy

5,417 posts

207 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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JumboBeef said:
Yes, but it was still put away for a reason.
Yeah, probably coz they wanted somewhere under cover to park it.

Once it is out of sight, it is out of mind and very easy to forget.

M

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
JumboBeef said:
Yes, but it was still put away for a reason.

About 8 years ago, I bought a barn stored 1958 SII, with 7,000 on the clock and one owner. I had to do some work to get it back on the road. Then, on it's first trip out, I got about 20 miles from home and the clutch failed. I'm guessing that is why it was laid up in the first place.
That they new the clutch would fail if they drove it another 20 miles so parked it up? Not convinced.
No, it had failed, but the plates had seized up enough over the years so it was possible to drive it a little way, before the plates gave up (again).

So I was told by an experienced motor mechanic at the time (who helped me change the clutch).

Nick1point9

3,920 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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JumboBeef said:
No, it had failed, but the plates had seized up enough over the years so it was possible to drive it a little way, before the plates gave up (again).

So I was told by an experienced motor mechanic at the time (who helped me change the clutch).
Don't want to sound rude but I don't believe that for a second. If it was seized enough to transfer enough torque to drive for 20 miles despite being knackered then it would be too seized to disengage drive when the car was started/any gear changes that necessitated dipping the clutch.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

201 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Well, that was what was agreed by the motor mechanic, and the Land Rover forum I was in, at the time.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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JumboBeef said:
Well, that was what was agreed by the motor mechanic, and the Land Rover forum I was in, at the time.
I doubt very much an entire forum agreed anything. Either way a clutch is a replaceable item, but I don't think you can do any more than guess that it stopped working previously without actually knowing.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

201 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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You know: whatever smile Don't care.

I was only originally suggesting the OP might want to consider if there was a reason why the car was stored in the first place. That's all!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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JumboBeef said:
I was only originally suggesting the OP might want to consider if there was a reason why the car was stored in the first place. That's all!
It's a valid point, but it's all part of the risk buying used. Someone selling a non stored vehicle might be doing so because something has gone hinky on it but they don't let on to the fact.

smile