TVR Blue Chimaera for spares or repair on EBAY £3K
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TVR Chimaera for spares or reapir on ebay for £3K
On a Buy it now
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-CHIMAERA-SPARES-REPA...
On a Buy it now
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TVR-CHIMAERA-SPARES-REPA...
chris1972 said:
Hmmm... I think that is wishful thinking. I would expect a chassis refurb at the very least...
Its an older model so the chassis might be fine. Just needs a poking about.I suppose the fact the car is North of the border will put a lot of people off also. It would take me about 4 hours to trailer it home to Cumbria.
Lol, indeed Jamie.
I just hope someone looking to make a quick buck doesn't buy her, just to do up and sell on.
There are a number of genuine buyers looking for their first Chimaera on here, and this might fit the bill. If the package is right.
But it IS a fair trek. Even to just look at, only to find out its another 'pig'.
I just hope someone looking to make a quick buck doesn't buy her, just to do up and sell on.
There are a number of genuine buyers looking for their first Chimaera on here, and this might fit the bill. If the package is right.
But it IS a fair trek. Even to just look at, only to find out its another 'pig'.
Lets not delude ourselves here chaps!
I suppose it depends on what you are happy with but for me I would say putting that car right properly could easily swallow up £6k, even with a strict budget.
Lets say he lets it go for £2k, it's going to stand you £8k in total once it's all properly sorted.
As a pre-facelift I'd say that same car in a fully sorted state would fetch about £7.5k.
So unless you are very very hands on & careful with your refurbishment budget it looks like a great way to flush £500 to me, & that's if he's prepared to let it go for £2k! (which I doubt).
Sadly Chimaeras rarely make economically viable returation projects given their current (undervalued) market value, I would save up some more money & buy a better car that someone else has thrown their money at.
Rather than spending the next six months battling to try & make a cheap car into a good one only to find you've lost money, I'd simply buy the better car in the first place & drive/enjoy immediately.
If you buy a good sorted car in the first place it'll be worth every penny of the additional initial outlay, that same sorted car will have little or no depreciation which is another joy of owning a Chimaera.
Owning a TVR can be fun & economical if you are careful to select the right car in the first place.
Select the wrong car and you'll very quickly wish you'd dug a bit deeper in the first place.
I strongly recommend letting a former keeper pay the big bills, he'll never get his money back when you buy that sorted car from him.
Fact!
I suppose it depends on what you are happy with but for me I would say putting that car right properly could easily swallow up £6k, even with a strict budget.
Lets say he lets it go for £2k, it's going to stand you £8k in total once it's all properly sorted.
As a pre-facelift I'd say that same car in a fully sorted state would fetch about £7.5k.
So unless you are very very hands on & careful with your refurbishment budget it looks like a great way to flush £500 to me, & that's if he's prepared to let it go for £2k! (which I doubt).
Sadly Chimaeras rarely make economically viable returation projects given their current (undervalued) market value, I would save up some more money & buy a better car that someone else has thrown their money at.
Rather than spending the next six months battling to try & make a cheap car into a good one only to find you've lost money, I'd simply buy the better car in the first place & drive/enjoy immediately.
If you buy a good sorted car in the first place it'll be worth every penny of the additional initial outlay, that same sorted car will have little or no depreciation which is another joy of owning a Chimaera.
Owning a TVR can be fun & economical if you are careful to select the right car in the first place.
Select the wrong car and you'll very quickly wish you'd dug a bit deeper in the first place.
I strongly recommend letting a former keeper pay the big bills, he'll never get his money back when you buy that sorted car from him.
Fact!
ChimpofDarkness said:
Lets not delude ourselves here chaps!
I suppose it depends on what you are happy with but for me I would say putting that car right properly could easily swallow up £6k, even with a strict budget.
Lets say he lets it go for £2k, it's going to stand you £8k in total once it's all properly sorted.
As a pre-facelift I'd say that same car in a fully sorted state would fetch about £7.5k.
So unless you are very very hands on & careful with your refurbishment budget it looks like a great way to flush £500 to me, & that's if he's prepared to let it go for £2k! (which I doubt).
Sadly Chimaeras rarely make economically viable returation projects given their current (undervalued) market value, I would save up some more money & buy a better car that someone else has thrown their money at.
Rather than spending the next six months battling to try & make a cheap car into a good one only to find you've lost money, I'd simply buy the better car in the first place & drive/enjoy immediately.
If you buy a good sorted car in the first place it'll be worth every penny of the additional initial outlay, that same sorted car will have little or no depreciation which is another joy of owning a Chimaera.
Owning a TVR can be fun & economical if you are careful to select the right car in the first place.
Select the wrong car and you'll very quickly wish you'd dug a bit deeper in the first place.
I strongly recommend letting a former keeper pay the big bills, he'll never get his money back when you buy that sorted car from him.
Fact!
I understand what you are saying but am i to beleive that this car should just be scrapped / broken for parts as its not worth the money on resale. 20 years ago i couldnt give away an rover p6 3.5 now look at the value and rarity.I suppose it depends on what you are happy with but for me I would say putting that car right properly could easily swallow up £6k, even with a strict budget.
Lets say he lets it go for £2k, it's going to stand you £8k in total once it's all properly sorted.
As a pre-facelift I'd say that same car in a fully sorted state would fetch about £7.5k.
So unless you are very very hands on & careful with your refurbishment budget it looks like a great way to flush £500 to me, & that's if he's prepared to let it go for £2k! (which I doubt).
Sadly Chimaeras rarely make economically viable returation projects given their current (undervalued) market value, I would save up some more money & buy a better car that someone else has thrown their money at.
Rather than spending the next six months battling to try & make a cheap car into a good one only to find you've lost money, I'd simply buy the better car in the first place & drive/enjoy immediately.
If you buy a good sorted car in the first place it'll be worth every penny of the additional initial outlay, that same sorted car will have little or no depreciation which is another joy of owning a Chimaera.
Owning a TVR can be fun & economical if you are careful to select the right car in the first place.
Select the wrong car and you'll very quickly wish you'd dug a bit deeper in the first place.
I strongly recommend letting a former keeper pay the big bills, he'll never get his money back when you buy that sorted car from him.
Fact!
I would suggest if someone wanted a car that in several years may command the rare classic staus that it would rightly deserve not so much the money but the having the knowledge that they have restored it from a "pig" to a head turner as well as saving another tvr from certain doom.
dbv8 said:
Or buy it for £2k
Swap in a £50
0 RR engine over the weekend.
Sell for £5k
£2.5 k profit
That's definitely the best thing to do with it.Swap in a £50
0 RR engine over the weekend.Sell for £5k
£2.5 k profit
Take that £2.5k profit, turn another similar project on the cheap to bring your bin up to £7k.
Add another £500 & buy carefully the right sorted keeper car from a desperate seller at £7,500.
That's the only practical way to buy a good Chimaera if you've only got £2,500 to start with.
I've owned quite a few nice classics I never could have normally afforded playing just this game.
But in those days I had storage space, a big workshop, a four post ramp & no wife.
How I miss those days
Nothing really changes in the world of old cars, the rule was always the same.
"Buy one some other bugger has spent the money on"
Unless that is you're looking to turning it quickly for a fast buck
Or you see restoration as your hobby.....
Spoke to the guy earlier today.
Seems a genuine sale from someone who can't afford to fix or keep it.
Nice colour, full leather and all original condition.
I have a 5.0 bottom end under my bench but tbh decided I can't be arsed
.
As said, it would suit a first time buyer handy with te spanners.
Seems a genuine sale from someone who can't afford to fix or keep it.
Nice colour, full leather and all original condition.
I have a 5.0 bottom end under my bench but tbh decided I can't be arsed
.As said, it would suit a first time buyer handy with te spanners.
jamienshelly said:
I understand what you are saying but am i to beleive that this car should just be scrapped / broken for parts as its not worth the money on resale. 20 years ago i couldnt give away an rover p6 3.5 now look at the value and rarity.
I would suggest if someone wanted a car that in several years may command the rare classic staus that it would rightly deserve not so much the money but the having the knowledge that they have restored it from a "pig" to a head turner as well as saving another tvr from certain doom.
I totally agree on an emotional level, but on a fiscal level a cheap Chimaera like the blue one is sadly never going to make sense in the short to medium term.I would suggest if someone wanted a car that in several years may command the rare classic staus that it would rightly deserve not so much the money but the having the knowledge that they have restored it from a "pig" to a head turner as well as saving another tvr from certain doom.
Sure, I accept these cars will go up in value in the future, but it'll need laying down like a good wine for a good few years before you see your investment mature.
If you look at the values of old cars there have been some fantastic climbers in the last 10 years, but there have been more that have stayed static.
Even the climbers mostly don't compare with a few simple well judged cash investments.
I can tell you some shocking stories about some of the lovely cars I've broken over the years, stories that will make lovers of classics weap these days.
But you've got to remember at the time it was a business, my old boss used to look at a beautiful car at a classic show & say "That would make a lovely breaker".
It's was criminal then & seems outrageous now what we did.
For example it simply made more sense to say pull the front wings of a decent Mk2 Zephyr and sell them for a grand than sell the whole car for the £1200 it was worth then as a whole car.
What was left could be sold for another grand over the next six months to give £2k on a car we pulled out of some old boy's shed and paid him £300 for.
The remaining shells would often just weighed in.
So in my example we made £1700 pure profit breaking the car against the £800-£900 we probably would have been lucky to make selling it as a complete car.
When you do this over & over again on many cars that additional profit really racks up & you soon lose your misty eyed romantic ideas of saving & restoring everything we uncovered on remote Norfolk farms in the early 90's.
Sadly right now a lot of TVR's are in the same place as those old classic I broke up, that's why those select breakers yards are still full of them.
The inevitable market value rise with change that situation bit it could still take 10 years before TVR restorations start to make more sense.
Restoration costs aren't cheap, they never have been.
I got to thinking the other day how life could have been different (always a mistake).
I concluded if I hadn't sold my big old freehold shed in Norfolk the tiny mortgage would have been cleared over 4 years ago.
But I needed the cash at the time to start my new life with no oil & grease in it.
Mark my words if I still had that space it would be full of laid up project 90's RV8 TVRs by now.
And in another 10 years I'd be quids in.
But the truth is most of us have to live in the here & now, that's still true right here right now
It's just the reality of life, like the current reality for a fixer Chimaera is to be broken for spares.
Sad but true....
All hail the enthusiast that sees the long term future for these cars and enjoys a bit of light restoration as a hobby.
This is the guy that doesn't only look at the immediate balance sheet, but rescues cars for the love of it.
That guy would be me if only I hadn't sold that big shed of mine
I concluded if I hadn't sold my big old freehold shed in Norfolk the tiny mortgage would have been cleared over 4 years ago.
But I needed the cash at the time to start my new life with no oil & grease in it.
Mark my words if I still had that space it would be full of laid up project 90's RV8 TVRs by now.
And in another 10 years I'd be quids in.
But the truth is most of us have to live in the here & now, that's still true right here right now
It's just the reality of life, like the current reality for a fixer Chimaera is to be broken for spares.
Sad but true....
All hail the enthusiast that sees the long term future for these cars and enjoys a bit of light restoration as a hobby.
This is the guy that doesn't only look at the immediate balance sheet, but rescues cars for the love of it.
That guy would be me if only I hadn't sold that big shed of mine
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