Body lifted!
Body lifted!
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debaron

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878 posts

227 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Managed to lift the body tonight - all went well the only thing that I forgot was the speedo sensor wire above the diff but it had been cut and rejoined at some point in the past so it just pulled itself free with no major damage.

Chassis isn't too bad considering it's 16 years old - it's a '96 silver and the only bad bits I could see are a couple small holes on the usual place on the front of the NS outrigger:













Also the rear of NS outrigger was able to be dented with a a spanner when hit which suggests it needs doing to!


I'll wait til it comes back from blasting and see but is it false economy to only replace 1 outrigger (NS in my case)?

Ryan



Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Having done all this work to get the body off, I think you'd be insane to only replace one outrigger. If the metal of the NS one is that thin, the other one won't be far behind. You don't want to be doing all this again in a couple of years. Do both outriggers now!

debaron

Original Poster:

878 posts

227 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Having done all this work to get the body off, I think you'd be insane to only replace one outrigger. If the metal of the NS one is that thin, the other one won't be far behind. You don't want to be doing all this again in a couple of years. Do both outriggers now!
Thought so!


Which leads me to my next question - does anyone know the inside and outside diameter of the pipes used in the outriggers?

SSPPGG

2,120 posts

232 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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roger thorpe racing sells the stuff....he also has sets of outriggers on ebay

dbv8

8,676 posts

250 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Cant think of the dia of the top of my head but the wall thickness was only 1.6mm

If i was doing it again i would opt for the 3mm wall thickness pipe for greater strength and to match that of the spec of the roll bar and probable future cage.

TJC46

2,199 posts

236 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Having done all this work to get the body off, I think you'd be insane to only replace one outrigger. If the metal of the NS one is that thin, the other one won't be far behind. You don't want to be doing all this again in a couple of years. Do both outriggers now!
This yes



jamienshelly

1,826 posts

168 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I pressume you are cleaning and painting chassis?, if so it would only seal the rot in, and as has been said before you don't want to lift the body again in a couple of years for the sake of replacing it now

debaron

Original Poster:

878 posts

227 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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jamienshelly said:
I pressume you are cleaning and painting chassis?, if so it would only seal the rot in, and as has been said before you don't want to lift the body again in a couple of years for the sake of replacing it now
The whole lot is getting blasted and coated and the rot will be cut away. Will def do both sides as otherwise like you say any metal which is less than good will get the rot sealed in.

Sardonicus

19,458 posts

251 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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debaron said:
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Having done all this work to get the body off, I think you'd be insane to only replace one outrigger. If the metal of the NS one is that thin, the other one won't be far behind. You don't want to be doing all this again in a couple of years. Do both outriggers now!
Thought so!


Which leads me to my next question - does anyone know the inside and outside diameter of the pipes used in the outriggers?
Quoting "Engineer 1949" thumbup Tubing 1.5in 16 gauge brackets 3mm although I use 4 mm when rebuilding

EGB

1,774 posts

187 months

Saturday 12th January 2013
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Get new outriggers galvanised.

debaron

Original Poster:

878 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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EGB said:
Get new outriggers galvanised.
Can you get galvanised tubing off the shelf?
Just thinking it would make sense to build repair sections out of galvy tube. Is it any different to weld? or does the weld then become a point of weakness to corrosion?

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

221 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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debaron said:
EGB said:
Get new outriggers galvanised.
Can you get galvanised tubing off the shelf?
Just thinking it would make sense to build repair sections out of galvy tube. Is it any different to weld? or does the weld then become a point of weakness to corrosion?
Its horrible to weld too and some of the fumes are not the type most welders want to breath.

Have it blasted and coated by a professional outfit that does both.

After coating, drill and tap as many tubes as possible and spray internally with waxoil. Fit small stainless caphead screws with nylon washers after internal coating. The waxoil will escape in areas where the chassis gets hot as welds are not always fully closed, but it will be of huge benefit.

debaron

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878 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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TVR_owner said:
Its horrible to weld too and some of the fumes are not the type most welders want to breath.

Have it blasted and coated by a professional outfit that does both.

After coating, drill and tap as many tubes as possible and spray internally with waxoil. Fit small stainless caphead screws with nylon washers after internal coating. The waxoil will escape in areas where the chassis gets hot as welds are not always fully closed, but it will be of huge benefit.
Good shout will do - thanks!

debaron

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878 posts

227 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Sardonicus said:
uoting "Engineer 1949" thumbup Tubing 1.5in 16 gauge brackets 3mm although I use 4 mm when rebuilding
Thanks Simon - I'll get some and get cracking on the repair sections

GTRene

22,615 posts

254 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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in the TVR books I also read (about the early cars)
they gave 5 years warranty against rust...
and all tubes were oil treated or something like that, I guess before welding.