Do all large smart TVs all come with 3D?
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As title. Thinking about getting a new telly (50 or 55"), and a smart TV makes sense. All the ones that I can see in Currys (only place I can actually go and see them) are 3D.
Having looked at a 3D TV for a couple of minutes, I'm really not interested in this feature - I couldn't watch it for any longer!
Presumably having 3D doesn't mess up normal viewing?
Second question:
I currently use a Panasonic 46" plasma (TH46PX81B) which is getting on for 4 years old now. In it's day, this was a top telly. How do the latest LED TVs compare for picture quality. Would a Samsung 6-series be an upgrade, or do I need to spend more?
Having looked at a 3D TV for a couple of minutes, I'm really not interested in this feature - I couldn't watch it for any longer!
Presumably having 3D doesn't mess up normal viewing?
Second question:
I currently use a Panasonic 46" plasma (TH46PX81B) which is getting on for 4 years old now. In it's day, this was a top telly. How do the latest LED TVs compare for picture quality. Would a Samsung 6-series be an upgrade, or do I need to spend more?
I'm in a similar situation - looking to replace living room goggle box from ageing LG plasma to larger LED.
It does seem that the majority, if not all, are 3D...even if you don't want it to be.
LED tv picture quality is far and above the plasmas quality; go and check them it for yourself in Curry's.
I can not answer the Samsung specific question, but I suspect the picture quality IS better than the plasma too.
It does seem that the majority, if not all, are 3D...even if you don't want it to be.
LED tv picture quality is far and above the plasmas quality; go and check them it for yourself in Curry's.
I can not answer the Samsung specific question, but I suspect the picture quality IS better than the plasma too.
5potTurbo said:
LED tv picture quality is far and above the plasmas quality; go and check them it for yourself in Curry's.
You are just vcomparing older and newer TVs. I had always been an LCD advocate, but when I bought a new TV last summer, it came down to Samsung LED vs Panasonic Plasma and the Panasonic won, becasue I preferred its picture quality.5potTurbo said:
LED tv picture quality is far and above the plasmas quality; go and check them it for yourself in Curry's.
Agree totally with the sentiment that it's subjective and ultimately needs to be seen by the buyer, but bear in mind high street shops are never a great place to check quality - there's a reason most TV's come with a 'shop mode' these days!5potTurbo said:
I can not answer the Samsung specific question, but I suspect the picture quality IS better than the plasma too.
I'm talking slightly lower down the range here, but I've just bought a (non 3D) 5 Series Samsung LED for a holiday home - very happy with it, and convinced it was the best choice for the requirement (cost, connectivity - plays almost anything thrown at it through USB, low maintenance, decent enough picture etc.) BUT... IMHO it's not a patch on my 3 year old plasma (only a Panny X series) in terms of out-and-out image quality, due to the usual 'LCD' traits - motion handling, blacks, viewing angle etc.3D TVS are just 2D TVs (by default) that are capable of 3D if you (typically) give it a 3D source (SKY3D or 3D Blu-Ray). Typically because you can (on mine at least) get it to try a render 2D material as 3D (and its not very good). 3D for movies designed for it are OK - e.g. Promoetheus.
Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
With respect to Samsung backlit LED vs plasma. I've moved from a 4 year old Panny Plasma 42"VT50 (with THX mode) to 55" Samsung ES8000 LED backlit LCD. It took some setting up and research in AVForums (but then so did the Panny), but in my opinion and in my setup the Samsumg picture blows the Panny away. YMMV.
FG
Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
With respect to Samsung backlit LED vs plasma. I've moved from a 4 year old Panny Plasma 42"VT50 (with THX mode) to 55" Samsung ES8000 LED backlit LCD. It took some setting up and research in AVForums (but then so did the Panny), but in my opinion and in my setup the Samsumg picture blows the Panny away. YMMV.
FG
FunkyGibbon said:
3D TVS are just 2D TVs (by default) that are capable of 3D if you (typically) give it a 3D source (SKY3D or 3D Blu-Ray). Typically because you can (on mine at least) get it to try a render 2D material as 3D (and its not very good). 3D for movies designed for it are OK - e.g. Promoetheus.
Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
Indeed - ultimately it just means they have 'better' pixels in terms of the response time required to deliver 3D content if required - there's no downside other than the extra cost!Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
FunkyGibbon said:
With respect to Samsung backlit LED vs plasma. I've moved from a 4 year old Panny Plasma 42"VT50 (with THX mode) to 55" Samsung ES8000 LED backlit LCD. It took some setting up and research in AVForums (but then so did the Panny), but in my opinion and in my setup the Samsumg picture blows the Panny away. YMMV.
FG
Tsk... There's always someone with a directly opposing view to your own!! FG
Digger said:
I think Funky meant . . . changed from a VT10/20 or similar?
Yeah, FG's saying Panny Plasma (presumably 42VT10 if it's 4 years old 
) --> Sammy LED is a good thing, whereas I was saying it ain't! (TBF not only are we talking different models and price points - I've not had a chance to run a decent calibration on the LED yet (I'm not used to all this 'backlight' setting nonsense
), so there is hope of being further impressed by it yet! 
) tdm34 said:
Interesting reading here.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/avforums-news-notic...
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Panasonic-VT50-TX-...
i have the 55" VT50 and I never cease to be impressed by it. I'd avoided the top,range Panasonic plasma s befor because they wee thick and weighed a ton. That is no longer the case.http://www.avforums.com/forums/avforums-news-notic...
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Panasonic-VT50-TX-...
Zod said:
tdm34 said:
i have the 55" VT50 and I never cease to be impressed by it. I'd avoided the top,range Panasonic plasma s befor because they wee thick and weighed a ton. That is no longer the case.Ultuous said:
FunkyGibbon said:
3D TVS are just 2D TVs (by default) that are capable of 3D if you (typically) give it a 3D source (SKY3D or 3D Blu-Ray). Typically because you can (on mine at least) get it to try a render 2D material as 3D (and its not very good). 3D for movies designed for it are OK - e.g. Promoetheus.
Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
Indeed - ultimately it just means they have 'better' pixels in terms of the response time required to deliver 3D content if required - there's no downside other than the extra cost!Their 2D mode normally default and not affected by 3D mode.
Did they ever resolve the 50Hz PAL issue with the Panasonics? I decided not to buy the more expensive JVC projector, so I 'saved' £2k and keep thinking I might like to upgrade my TV. I'm not in the least bothered by 3D (I saved £300 on the projector by not getting the glasses and emitter) so any comments would be purely 2D. I also have a Lumagen video processor and calibration equipment, so would be able to do the 125 point autocalibration externally for PVR and BluRay sources. Does this mean that there would be any benefit buying the VT50 model over one of the cheaper models (given my calibration equipment)?
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