stepper motor ????
stepper motor ????
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Hoover.

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5,993 posts

266 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Do these get have intermittent failures, signifying they are on their way out... or do they just stop working full stop ?

Sardonicus

19,335 posts

245 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Hoover. said:
Do these get have intermittent failures, signifying they are on their way out... or do they just stop working full stop ?
I would imagine they could get lazy with age/wear and intermittent failure could occur from the fact they have fine wire windings internally like a speaker or electronic distributor scratchchin the small gauge copper wire can age and get fragile/break with the constant heat cycles however I have not seen total failure of a stepper/IAC on the RV8 yet wink

carsy

3,019 posts

189 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I suppose they could do either.

When mine started playing up it would rev high for quite some time on a hot start up. The usual take it out and clean it and drown it in wd40 would work for a couple of weeks and then back to the high revs on hot start. It was ok everywhere else just on the initial hot start. They can become sticky and it obviously couldnt move close down the air supply as quickly as it should.

I gambled and bought a cheap £16 one of ebay and problem sorted. Well so far so good. Just be careful you get the right one. There is a small plastic locating pin in the wiring plug, have a look you will easily see it, they come in different orientations even when the same part number is offered.


Hoover.

Original Poster:

5,993 posts

266 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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was wondering as mine operates fine...... start holds at high revs then drops...not irratic...

but very occasionaly at junctions it does not appear to cut in and the engine dies.

carsy

3,019 posts

189 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Is your speedo working ok.

You could try running with the stepper disconnected and see if it still stalls. This would show whether its the stepper or not. If it still occurs the road speed signal to the ecu could be at fault. I know you are running a t5 box rather than the rover. Maybe worth checking the road speed sensor wires, where ever they are on your conversion.

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

262 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Hoover

When my required attention I disconnected it and the car ran fine, only thing it was a bit lumpy when cold but after that no problem, in actual fact I quite liked the fact that the revs dropped to idle immediately I stopped rather than slowly dropping. Replaced it eventually though.

blitzracing

6,419 posts

244 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Sardonicus said:
Hoover. said:
Do these get have intermittent failures, signifying they are on their way out... or do they just stop working full stop ?
I would imagine they could get lazy with age/wear and intermittent failure could occur from the fact they have fine wire windings internally like a speaker or electronic distributor scratchchin the small gauge copper wire can age and get fragile/break with the constant heat cycles however I have not seen total failure of a stepper/IAC on the RV8 yet wink
I don't think the physical wiring breaks, as it does not move. On the faulty ones Ive pulled to bits the issue is corrosion in the small metal ball bearing in the base of the motor- They are exposed to some of the nasty corrosive exhaust gas and water that gets back into plenum. Rust and bearings don't make for smooth running.

Hoover.

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5,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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waiting for a new sensor that is just behind the alternator apparently.... see if that does the trick.. not that I can see me road testing in the next day or two

carsy

3,019 posts

189 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I cant see it doing any harm.

blitzracing

6,419 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Nope- you are quite safe on that one- its just a 12 volt pulse and a few feet of wire wont change that.