mx5 wont start hot!
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steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Hi
my 5 will not behave when warmed up. used daily to go to work and when left for 8 hours starts and drives fine. after a short trip she will either refuse to start or only start on 3 pots if driven will clear but not quickly as if flooded.
changed plugs, leads and had a diagnostic plug in which showed no faults. i was told on this model,2000, 1600cc, the ignition was not included in the diagnostic menu. The fault "feels" electrical, and i have seen some other similar problems discussed on line but with no final solution. thinking of changing the coil pack maybe for a cheaper patern one new from ebay, any one able to offer some help or advise?
thanks
steve

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Sounds like the engine temp sensor on the back of the engine is dead and always sending a signal to the ecu that the engine is warm. New sensor should fix it. Cheap but a bit of a bugger to get to.

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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hi
if the temp sender was saying warm all the time would that not effect the start from stone cold as well?
but it sounds like it might fit the some of the experiences i'm getting ill price it fit it and see what happens
cheers

Edited by steveo1o1o1oo1o on Tuesday 15th January 20:54

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th January 2013
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Sorry, I meant it sounds like its telling the ecu that it is always cold causing it to overfuel. I'd guess that it is also a bit thirsty?
There are other things that can also cause it but that's my first guess.

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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hi
thanks for the advise i,m happy for the help
steve

Phil @ P5

56 posts

207 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Coil packs on 1999-2000 models are notoriously problematic and do fail when 'warm' and return to normality when 'cold'. A temperature sensor would effect the running of all cylinders, not just one, so it is worth pulling off the leads one by one (and plugging back in before pulling the next) and seeing whether the engine runs the same or falters a little more. Check again when cold and you should find that pulling the same plug replicates the same condition when hot.

Phil

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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hi
thanks for the help, I spose i was hoping for a definitive wiggles this wire and all will be well, but life is not like that often. I will change the temp senser first and see as it is the cheepest and maybe most akwrd and if no joy try a coil.
cheers
steve

RVVUNM

1,913 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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I had the same with mine, change the green temp sensor at the rear of the engine block and it should sort it.

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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hi
thanks fingers crossed doing it today
steve

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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160 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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hi
when i went on line to do a bit of research into my problem i could,nt find a resolved issue. i suppose once fixed people just went back to having fun in the car, so here is my update.
fitted the temp sender, a fidderly job, remove coil pack, 3 13 mm bolts, the bottom one being the real mare, had to use my smallest ratchet which meant the socket bareley cleared a congestion of water pipes that are in the way. once loose i could only move the ratchet one click at a time to withdraw thw bolt, boring uncomfortable but not impossible. I thought, due to lack of space the sender unit woud be a pain as my 19 mm ring spanner ony just fitted in the space but once loosened undid by hand fine. watch out for the washer its the same colour as the block not brass like the sender. the sender unit. on mine a 2000 1.6 car, it seems to be a mazda only part bye bye £50. the only casualties a small scratch on the back of my hand and a favorite long 13mm socket which i used on the bottom coil bolt. when the bolt was loose i used the socket between two fingers to try to undo the bolt quicker. it dropped off and currently lives somewhere on or arround the gearbox housing, at least i know where it is. Now for a test drive see if it has all been worth it.

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Friday 25th January 2013
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ok
so i've seen a cheap coil pak on ebay for under a ton versa mazda part at about £400 so i'll try that next, loooking forward to that bottom bolt already, anyone want to buy a second hand temp sender, gaurnetee'd working?

Tonis

9 posts

168 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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I have a 2000 1.8,had the same problem
The guys at the local Mazda shop only adjusted the postion of the crank sensor,located in front of the engine,towards the cooler,on the right side, and now the problem is gone
Apparently due to vibration that sensor can move a little and needs to be readjusted to factory tolerancies

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Hi
thanks, not had this suggestion before which is interesting, originally i went to my local garage for plug in diagnostic, and they came up wih nothing, not a specialist tho, so thanks for this info.
cheers
steve

Tonis

9 posts

168 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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I went for a plug in diagnostic too-but since the garage is out of town i drove a little faster and car cooled down so computer showed nothing wrong.They told me i'd have to leave the car for them to drive because computer needs to be plugged in immediately to show the problem,there is no memory to read from

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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10 posts

160 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Well
i have fitted a 2nd hand coilpack as i couldnt get a pattern for the 1.6 loads of options on a 1.8 typical pack came from freelance mazda at chatham £50 against the one i was watching on ebay £97 so thumbs up to them.
fitted now The bolts are 12mm not 13mm on the frame and started no problem, lets see how i get on
once again thanks to all for your kind advice
steve

steveo1o1o1oo1o

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160 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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hi
looks like thats got it, hope this is useful to you if you are reading this
steve