Motability question
Discussion
I know questions on motability often cause arguments on here, but I have a serious question about it.
Why is a crew cab pick up not available on this scheme?
I'm thinking of something like the Great Wall Steed.
It would carry a family, and has a huge load bed for mobility scooters, wheelchairs and all the other items needed by variously disabled people.
Our Insignia is great for the wife's scooter, but the scooter only just fits in the boot, and the boot can end up dirty if the scooter has to go in wet or dirty.
Do you think a car like this should have a place on the motability scheme?
Why is a crew cab pick up not available on this scheme?
I'm thinking of something like the Great Wall Steed.
It would carry a family, and has a huge load bed for mobility scooters, wheelchairs and all the other items needed by variously disabled people.
Our Insignia is great for the wife's scooter, but the scooter only just fits in the boot, and the boot can end up dirty if the scooter has to go in wet or dirty.
Do you think a car like this should have a place on the motability scheme?
I do see the argument but I suspect that the majority of four-seat pick ups, if offered on that scheme, would be used by builders, farmers, pastry based lock openers, and others who themselves are not disabled (or for the benefit of those who are) and instead would come back with a bazillion miles (clocked back to 30k because whatever), dented, and generally fooked.
The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
CYMR0 said:
I do see the argument but I suspect that the majority of four-seat pick ups, if offered on that scheme, would be used by builders, farmers, pastry based lock openers, and others who themselves are not disabled (or for the benefit of those who are) and instead would come back with a bazillion miles (clocked back to 30k because whatever), dented, and generally fooked.
The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
Thanks for the sensible answer, you make a very good point, I never considered how abused the scheme could become if they offered them, I was simply thinking about the practicality.The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
As usual the people that don't understand how the scheme work just post nonsense.
CYMR0 said:
I do see the argument but I suspect that the majority of four-seat pick ups, if offered on that scheme, would be used by builders, farmers, pastry based lock openers, and others who themselves are not disabled (or for the benefit of those who are) and instead would come back with a bazillion miles (clocked back to 30k because whatever), dented, and generally fooked.
The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
My experience of Motability's reputation at auction is that there cars are covered in dents and it's a faff changing the taxation class.The effect of this would be to reduce Motability's goodwill at auction (such as it is, it has a reputaiton that at least some of its cars are well looked after and lightly used) and would certainly cause the cars to depreciate substantially. This might make them unaffordable on the scheme so the point might then become moot.
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It starts with people in receipt of the higher rate DLA abusing the system, and like any benefit there is abuse, however speaking to my colleague who has a disabled son who isn't in receipt of the higher rate DLA he claims that cheating the system is bloody hard to do.People in receipt of the higher rate DLA can then go on to forfeit their benefit and have a fully funded car instead, this is open to abuse too however in the last year it has become harder to do so.
However like many benefits based things it is emotive to others and is an easy target, compared to companies dodging tax on a perfectly legal loophole, people abusing the disabled benefits system is small fry, it's just easier for people to attack them as opposed to big companies that they still use to buy CD's or whatever as they are cheap.
Richard Littlejohn wrote an article a year or so ago on Motability abuse, most of what he wrote was b
ks, however the uneducated and ill informed got hold of it and it grew into a massive thing so changes were made, these changes, in the grand scheme of things, did very little to save money however people were able to bask in their own glory as the disabled person down the road was no longer allowed as nice a car to get around in.spikeyhead said:
My experience of Motability's reputation at auction is that there cars are covered in dents and it's a faff changing the taxation class.
The really good ones don't go to public auction, they stay within the main dealer network only auction allowing a good supply of used vehicles to forecourts. Mine were always extremely well looked after.With the new PIP assessments expect the number of Motability cars to drop substantially as many people will be told they no longer qualify for the allowance they could exchange for the car.
sunbeam alpine said:
Wouldn't it pose practical problems as well - the load bed is probably double the height of an alternative like an Espace or equivalent.
Also the load area is quite restricted if you put a top on.
Lots of people already use ramps to load scooters, and many people use roof racks for wheel chairs, so it shouldn't be too bad, obviously it wouldn't be ideal for everyone.Also the load area is quite restricted if you put a top on.
Cuthbert said:
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Yes. The cars can be used by family to "ferry" the user around. Disabled user's can also buy VAT free this gets abused by the extended family as well.
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