Is there a limit on registration transfers?
Is there a limit on registration transfers?
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anarki

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794 posts

166 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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I can't seem to find an answer on this, is there a limit on the number of different registration numbers on a single car?

My current car is a 51 plate, the owner had his personal plate on it, took it off when he sold it, now I want to put my plate on it, is this ok, or is it not possible as its already had a personal plate on it?



*Al*

3,830 posts

252 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Im not aware of any 'limit', yes you can put your reg straight on. I've HPi'd cars that have had lots of P/Plates on them.

AndyLB

428 posts

194 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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What's the details on "Non Transferable plates"?

Is this when someone has sold the plate that was originally assigned to the vehicle, so the subsequent replacement plate becomes "Non Transferable" - to stop people repeatedly selling the assigned plate?

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

266 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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AndyLB said:
What's the details on "Non Transferable plates"?

Is this when someone has sold the plate that was originally assigned to the vehicle, so the subsequent replacement plate becomes "Non Transferable" - to stop people repeatedly selling the assigned plate?
Did some search on t'interweb and came up with this:

It's caused where someone does the following:
  • A brand new car is registered with a cherished plate in the first case without having a proper "year" reg first. (eg. if in 2010 I bought a brand new 2010 BMW and put "M5 ABC" on as my cherished plate in 2010).
  • I subsequently (say this year, 2013) remove the cherished plate from the BMW because I'm selling it. As a consequence of that, the DVLA now has to provide a registration mark of some sort for the BMW.
  • It's now 2013, but they need to issue a plate which would have been current in 2010.
  • I do not pay a fee for this new plate - it's not a cherished number, just a regular but as-yet-unissued 2010 numberplate, eg. HH10 YGD.
  • The DVLA do not want this second plate to be transferable or else they would inadvertently create a market for such plates issued out of year.
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Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Although I understand it's more for the historic plate market than 2010 models wink

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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CraigyMc said:
  • The DVLA do not want this second plate to be transferable or else they would inadvertently create a market for such plates issued out of year.
not doubting you, just can't for the life of me work out why this would be a problem to DVLA?

how is an out-of-year plate any different to one created at the time? (apart from the obvious)


Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Because old plates are valuable (think very old), if they kept giving you new ones it would be like printing money.

MrReg

1,939 posts

252 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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To answer the original question there is no limit - we've got bikes that have had upwards of 50 different registrations on them throughout their lifetime to assist with transfers.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Mattt said:
Because old plates are valuable (think very old), if they kept giving you new ones it would be like printing money.
care to elaborate?

assuming they are not handing out plates that would have been worth something at the time, I am struggling to work out how an 'old' normal plate is worth jack?

for example, if we go quite old, like GEC288S how is that worth anything over any other plate?

Can see the point if it's something like GTO288S, but I would assume that would already have been earmarked as worth something if not already sold?

B'stard Child

31,140 posts

276 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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When Plate rape started DVLA broke their own rules from memory

Say Moggy Minor ABC 123 was raped fro the plate - DVLA would issue a new dated Plate CBA 321A - however in doing so they would create the appearance that the car was now newer than it was and this broke their own rules - so they had to issue dateless plates to replace the one that was plate raped and transfered

They did this by issuing non transferable plates (non transferable makes them worthless as they can't go on any other car)

Triumph Man

9,620 posts

198 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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I had a Passat with a Reg number R39 *** and on the V5 it said "this registration mark is non transferable", presumably for the reasons above?

mk1matt

405 posts

195 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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MrReg said:
To answer the original question there is no limit - we've got bikes that have had upwards of 50 different registrations on them throughout their lifetime to assist with transfers.
I once read an article about a Northern Ireland based reg transfers company that kept a massive fleet of mopeds in purely for the purpose of selling the ABC 1234 style plates. They had a guy employed full time just keeping them running so that they could get an MOT each year to keep them eligible. Each time they sold a plate they'd get another one supplied and that new one would go up for sale.

It's a great idea for a business, as you don't actually pay anything for the products you sell!

Was this you Mr Reg?

Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Scuffers said:
Mattt said:
Because old plates are valuable (think very old), if they kept giving you new ones it would be like printing money.
care to elaborate?

assuming they are not handing out plates that would have been worth something at the time, I am struggling to work out how an 'old' normal plate is worth jack?

for example, if we go quite old, like GEC288S how is that worth anything over any other plate?

Can see the point if it's something like GTO288S, but I would assume that would already have been earmarked as worth something if not already sold?
Think older, say a plate from the 1930s could be 'ARF 1' - I'm sure plates like that would mean something to someone. These types of plates also have a limited number of variables, so the DVLA could then run out of age-related plates.

Herbs

5,132 posts

259 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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I believe it relates to originally assigned plates ie: you buy a new Dacia Duster with the Reg: FK13 UHG - this plate would be non transferable as it is a non private plate.

Otherwise, you would be able to move any plate to any car subject to year restrictions.

Alx323

421 posts

233 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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My plate is non-transferrable, as the car was registered in Jersey when new and used as a hire car there.

MrReg

1,939 posts

252 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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mk1matt said:
MrReg said:
To answer the original question there is no limit - we've got bikes that have had upwards of 50 different registrations on them throughout their lifetime to assist with transfers.
I once read an article about a Northern Ireland based reg transfers company that kept a massive fleet of mopeds in purely for the purpose of selling the ABC 1234 style plates. They had a guy employed full time just keeping them running so that they could get an MOT each year to keep them eligible. Each time they sold a plate they'd get another one supplied and that new one would go up for sale.

It's a great idea for a business, as you don't actually pay anything for the products you sell!

Was this you Mr Reg?
I'm afraid not - we're based in snowy Hampshire. But yes the above story is true.

MrReg

1,939 posts

252 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Herbs said:
I believe it relates to originally assigned plates ie: you buy a new Dacia Duster with the Reg: FK13 UHG - this plate would be non transferable as it is a non private plate.

Otherwise, you would be able to move any plate to any car subject to year restrictions.
Incorrect - if it is registered as new to your car you can transfer it in the future. However, if you put a private plate on, and then take it off again, the reissued original plate would then normally be nontransferable .

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Herbs said:
I believe it relates to originally assigned plates ie: you buy a new Dacia Duster with the Reg: FK13 UHG - this plate would be non transferable as it is a non private plate.

Otherwise, you would be able to move any plate to any car subject to year restrictions.
??????

DVLA have only been selling plates for about 20 years. If what you said was true it would have been impossible to transfer plates before they started selling them - but it was possible.

If DVLA give you a "freebie" plate you happen to like when you first register a new car, you can transfer that plate to other cars in future (so long as it doesn't make them look newer than they actually are).

AFAIK the only plates which are non-tranferable are older-style plates issued by DVLA to replace a plate that's been transferred off.

Obviously there are restrictions on diplomatic and military plates and Q plates.

muckymotor

2,497 posts

251 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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My Volvo has the plate T5 *** and that is non transferable. It was on the car originally for the first owner who left it on the car when thay sold it. Owner number two buys the car and replaced the plate with his own plate, he didn't want the T5 *** plate so it went back to the DVLA. When owner two sold the car he kept his plate and the car was reissued with T5 *** which then became non transferable. At least I think that's what happened.

Herbs

5,132 posts

259 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Ozzie Osmond said:
??????

DVLA have only been selling plates for about 20 years. If what you said was true it would have been impossible to transfer plates before they started selling them - but it was possible.

If DVLA give you a "freebie" plate you happen to like when you first register a new car, you can transfer that plate to other cars in future (so long as it doesn't make them look newer than they actually are).

AFAIK the only plates which are non-tranferable are older-style plates issued by DVLA to replace a plate that's been transferred off.

Obviously there are restrictions on diplomatic and military plates and Q plates.
I didn't know that so stand corrected smile