Lotus GS?? What's The Story?
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Carsie

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943 posts

233 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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As Clarkson would say " I was on the t'internet and look what I found wink



The photograph has a Pistonhead filename so clearly it;s been on here before but I've obviously missed it.

Is this the GS (or something?) - scratches grey matter...

gforceg

3,525 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Cabin looks European (see what I did there?) so I googled Lotus GS and the third suggestion was Lotus Europa GS. Looks a lot like it!

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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I think that this one may have been on sale a while back, but it looked like a big restoration job. I prefer the looks of the Europa Twin Cam and Special to this, which is sort of just another wedgy sports car, and not the most pleasing of those. I am not so keen on the earlier high sided Europas, although Chapman apparently thought the car was ruined once it had windows you could open.


A GS would look like this if not knackered:-






Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 19th January 20:28

restoman

1,011 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Looks like one messed up Europa . . .

GTRene

22,320 posts

253 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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its special, I saw such thing in the bible ;-)
but its not very nice...don't like pop-up and the rear styling looks a bit maserati merak?

the engine could be nice though...BDA


mark387mw

2,205 posts

296 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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I posted a link early September in Breadvan's topic. Item has ended so I don't know what became of it.

mark387mw said:
Have you seen this Lotus GS Europa? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am... , needs a bit more than a polish.

4rephill

5,165 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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restoman said:
Looks like one messed up Europa . . .
Looks like a Europa trying to do an impression of an Esprit!

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Awful things. Up close they look exactly like what they are - a Europa with fibreglass clag on it. Look at the big square hole in the new "door" so you can reach the door handle still bolted to the original Europa door shell....

Carsie

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943 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
I am not so keen on the earlier high sided Europas, although Chapman apparently thought the car was ruined once it had windows you could open.
Oh..so these are the one's you like? wink

p.s Thanks for the replies guys


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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That's a cheerful sight!

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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Certainly is!

I must stick up for the purity of the "high-sided" Europas though, especially the S1s and early S2s before they gained the indicator bullets and high headlamps, they look amazingly clean and sleek.

GTRene

22,320 posts

253 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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ooo thats a great picture, I love those Europa's...
indeed you have to be fast to get one for a reasonable price, most will go up in price and some are already, seen some not a lot used and not worked so 'original' for prices high in the in the 30K

for me I don't need/want a total original Europa, a nice spydercars europa is also welcome or one with a good chassis type S3/74? and say with a zetec conversion and 200+ (260 would be nice) engine.

http://www.spydercars.co.uk/EUROPA%20ZETEC%20CONVE...

I like this sort rear with the exhaust that way>>


mark387mw

2,205 posts

296 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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GTRene said:
I like this sort rear with the exhaust that way>>

I do like that as well. How much do these converted cars cost? scratchchin

GTRene

22,320 posts

253 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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don't know yet, but I was starting to collect info and different pictures and websites of Europa's and found this website interesting, they make a stronger chassis which looks great too and do some nice zetec conversions.
in the days those cars were around the best in the twisties and tracks, they are very lightweight and very low and in those days with better suspension and better chassis and stronger engine etc, you could have a very nice fast car which will be fuel friendly and also I guess easy to maintain...
also they have a timeless shape and are good classics.

drive to the track, chase some Porsche and afterwards drive home with it.
its a car with a lot potential and not many on the road.

72twink

963 posts

271 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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I think I'd rather have a GS than a space framed, Zetec'd facsimile.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Yes. You can still buy a proper Lotus chassis, so why buy a Spyder chassis?

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Yeah, then re-shell the GS! smile

GTRene

22,320 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
Yes. You can still buy a proper Lotus chassis, so why buy a Spyder chassis?
don't know, have to say I have no experience with either chassis, but it sounds better?
if you don't need everything 100% original then why not update some things when you need new parts.

That's also why I would like to see a separate Lotus "classic" thread in the gassing station, so we can discus and share info/pictures etc of all classic Lotus and all together at one place, would be nice me thinks biggrin

http://www.spydercars.co.uk/pg8_spy_eur_sf_chassis...


16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Why "update" it? Is there something wrong with the original?

One of my Classic Car pet peeves... The "I've never driven it but these different parts have GOT to be better than the originals - they're newer!" crew.

BTW, I have heard of some Spyder chassis that have cracked in normal use, knew someone involved in the court case about it.

GTRene

22,320 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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the original when I read the book/storys must be fine when you leave it all original I guess, in those days it was one of the best handling cars so that sounded very good biggrin

but I guess (again no experience) if you do, say a zetec conversion and ad a lot more power say 190<>260hp
also use better suspension and wider wheels etc, then the chassis made for those days and specs in the 60/70 could come a bit short in present time?

don't say such spydercars chassis or Banks would be the answer though, I was just wondering and if they/it does what they speak of it sounded better for the job/present days.