Snow - Tyres, new car - overkill?!
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So, for under 2% of the entire year this place goes into bats
t mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!
I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
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t mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
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Some people have to struggle, some people like to struggle, some people have spare cash and don't want to struggle, some people want that go anywhere freedom that the right car/ tyres bring- some people have to have it for emergency/ security /work or family necessity.
I hardly ever need the true ability of my 4wds, or the winter tyres, but it's nice to know they are there for when I do.
I hardly ever need the true ability of my 4wds, or the winter tyres, but it's nice to know they are there for when I do.
billzeebub said:
Some people have to struggle, some people like to struggle, some people have spare cash and don't want to struggle, some people want that go anywhere freedom that the right car/ tyres bring- some people have to have it for emergency/ security /work or family necessity.
I hardly ever need the true ability of my 4wds, or the winter tyres, but it's nice to know they are there for when I do.
DittoI hardly ever need the true ability of my 4wds, or the winter tyres, but it's nice to know they are there for when I do.
Also if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
jdwoodbury said:
Ditto
Also if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
Not strictly true as you can use 6mm out of the 8mm of rubber that summers come on whereas you can only use 4mm of the winter tyre. Also if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
2% of the year? 7 days? That's a generous estimate for a lot of the country. I think last year my car (on summer tyres) was immobile for a grand total of 2 days due to snow. Until the cost in lost time is greater than the required investment, I'm certainly not going to start spending hundreds and hours in time faffing about with alternative cars/tyres, and I'm well equipped to do all of it myself.
I understand your point, but my view is that if I buy a performance car. I want to use it. And for most of the winter months, not just in the snow, the winter tyres are simply better. In the same way as a track day drive is better on the right tyres....but I can still do it on standard tyres
Hasn't this been done a billion times?
It's just a bit of upfront investment. The rubber gets used, and the alloys can get sold again. Personally I only need only the smallest of excuses to start browsing the classifieds for a new motor.
Also, if you're self employed it matters a lot; and remember they are cold weather tyres rather than snow tyres - have mine on for 3 months of the year.
It's just a bit of upfront investment. The rubber gets used, and the alloys can get sold again. Personally I only need only the smallest of excuses to start browsing the classifieds for a new motor.
Also, if you're self employed it matters a lot; and remember they are cold weather tyres rather than snow tyres - have mine on for 3 months of the year.
Pommygranite said:
So, for under 2% of the entire year this place goes into batst mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!
I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
I
Jesus. They're not snow tyres. They're winter tyres. They save you money, make you safer, and allow you to enjoy your car on winter road conditions when temperatures are low. If it so happens that it does snow, they make the difference between traction and none in a rwd. Do your own research...t mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
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A900ss said:
jdwoodbury said:
Ditto
Also if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
Not strictly true as you can use 6mm out of the 8mm of rubber that summers come on whereas you can only use 4mm of the winter tyre. Also if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
You can run winters all year round, you know, you don't run off into the scenery in summer on them, they just wear a little quicker. Indeed, we ran one of our cars all year last year with them, as the summer weather was pretty poor both temp and dryness wise and they were fine.
A900ss said:
jdwoodbury said:
if you consider that snow tyres are cheaper than my summers, then you could actually argue that this solution saves me money after a few seasons use.
Not strictly true as you can use 6mm out of the 8mm of rubber that summers come on whereas you can only use 4mm of the winter tyre. I plan on extending the use of winter tyres further into spring when the tread stops working well enough on snow and ice. Since some people have reported being able to use winter tyres all year round, and Continental say 'If you are reluctant to change tyres and have nowhere to store summer tyres when they are not in use, you are better off using winter tyres all year round', then it seems a good way to get some more wear out of them.
I think it depends completely on what you drive, where in the country you are, the trype of weather you get and the distance/type of roads you need to use.
I have never used winter tyres and also never been stuck or found myself sliding around uncontrolably but thats because i live in south northumberland and commute around 9 mile and we have never in my 7 years of driving had weather that has warranted me to get winter tyres.
If I lived elsewhere and had hills/distance to commute then I would consider them.
It totally comes down to your specific circumstances.
I have never used winter tyres and also never been stuck or found myself sliding around uncontrolably but thats because i live in south northumberland and commute around 9 mile and we have never in my 7 years of driving had weather that has warranted me to get winter tyres.
If I lived elsewhere and had hills/distance to commute then I would consider them.
It totally comes down to your specific circumstances.
Redlake27 said:
I understand your point, but my view is that if I buy a performance car. I want to use it. And for most of the winter months, not just in the snow, the winter tyres are simply better. In the same way as a track day drive is better on the right tyres....but I can still do it on standard tyres
The only post anyone really need read and understand in the whole winter tyres debate. billywhizzzzzz said:
Pommygranite said:
So, for under 2% of the entire year this place goes into batst mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!
I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
I
Jesus. They're not snow tyres. They're winter tyres. They save you money, make you safer, and allow you to enjoy your car on winter road conditions when temperatures are low. If it so happens that it does snow, they make the difference between traction and none in a rwd. Do your own research...t mental mode whereby people seem to feel the need to spend £thousands adapting. I mean new cars for a one week issue?!I do understand the snow tyres as its now becoming each year and the need to work is vital but you would think the UK has become Siberia with all the carry on.
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s3fella said:
Wy can you only use 4mil of a winter tyre? They have the same c 8mil as a summer to begin with, it's true they don't work quite as well in snow etc with less than say 4 mil tread, but mine worked fine in dry and wet conditions.
You can run winters all year round, you know, you don't run off into the scenery in summer on them, they just wear a little quicker. Indeed, we ran one of our cars all year last year with them, as the summer weather was pretty poor both temp and dryness wise and they were fine.
My Winters (Marangoni 4ice) definitely don't perform anything like as well as my regular tyres (Michelin PS3) in non-wintry conditions. They are good in cold Winter conditions of course and fantastic on snow and ice such as we've had in the last few days.You can run winters all year round, you know, you don't run off into the scenery in summer on them, they just wear a little quicker. Indeed, we ran one of our cars all year last year with them, as the summer weather was pretty poor both temp and dryness wise and they were fine.
Now admittedly they aren't the most premium Winters but you can't expect things that are optimised for one set of conditons - cold with snow and ice - to perform as well outside of those conditions as something optimised for that other set of conditions - warm and mostly dry.
Seriously thinking about sticking with one set of true all-season tyres for future purchases. Depends on what sort of car I get next as I'd expect my Winters to last one more Winter after which I'm planning on changing cars.
DaveEssex said:
When your putting 510PS through two wheels everyday like I am, you'll soon appreciate the difference a set of Winter tyres make, whenever there is any dampness on the road and the temperature is below 4 degrees.
Comment!!!
I've never really thought that winter tyres were necessary ............ until the experience of the current runflats on my Z4. In spring, summer and autumn they are OK but once the temperature gets below 5C their grip just inexorably disappears - even in the dry. In snow, well just forget it.Comment!!!
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