HELP! E63 M6 OIL PUMP PROBLEM

[Owren]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 10 February 2013 at 15:47

[Irish_Stu]

How many miles are on your M6?

[smokey145]

Owren said:

only 38k!!

STREWTH!

[smokey145]

no warranty cover at all?

[rassi]

Owren said:

I've not had the car even 2 weeks. Just finalised all the prep work and was then going to do some digging on the warranty side of things.

Just after a reputable North West specialist that can fix the problem for as little as possible!

Bought from a dealer or private person?

[smokey145]

Owren said:

I've not had the car even 2 weeks. Just finalised all the prep work and was then going to do some digging on the warranty side of things.

Just after a reputable North West specialist that can fix the problem for as little as possible!

surely you would know if youve got a warranty on there or not?

i cant recommend anyone from the north west but series 9 in nottingham are excellent.

[RSoovy4]

rassi said:

Owren said:

I've not had the car even 2 weeks. Just finalised all the prep work and was then going to do some digging on the warranty side of things.

Just after a reputable North West specialist that can fix the problem for as little as possible!

Bought from a dealer or private person?

If you bought from a dealer then they should be fixing it.

[smokey145]

Owren said:

The car was bought from Audi Wolverhampton, but as a trade sale. They were advertising the car on Auto Trade Mail and I pursued the sale through there obviously at a reduced price. I'm not even going to bother calling them, as it's pointless. 'Sold as seen' is how they'll view it!!

i remember seeing this, Silverstone 2? nice looking, low miles.

thats shocking that there is no recourse with Audi though. they are right next too Benham BMW right? funnily enough i brought my 55 plate silverstone 2 M6 from there about a year ago.

[RSoovy4]

Owren said:

The car was bought from Audi Wolverhampton, but as a trade sale. They were advertising the car on Auto Trade Mail and I pursued the sale through there obviously at a reduced price. I'm not even going to bother calling them, as it's pointless. 'Sold as seen' is how they'll view it!!

NO NO NO NO NO.

They are a trader and you are an individual. Sold as seen doesn't work here.

[RSoovy4]

Owren said:

Yes, silverstone II with black, done 38k.Last service had been done at Benham BMW only 3k miles ago!
You guys think i have a leg to stand on here? I bought the car for trade money, which was about 1k below what they were asking at retail level.I've not even done 50 miles in the car since it arrived, so this would have happend to a retail customer who would have been provided with a 6 month warranty.

I pushed for a basic warranty on the car, but they knocked me back due to it being a trade sale. Not too sure what my best approach is here??!!

Are you an individual, not a trader? Then GO AND TELL THEM TO FIX IT.

FFS

They CANNOT DO A "TRADE SALE SOLD AS SEEN" TO YOU!!



If peace-of-mind is more important than achieving the best possible deal, then buy from a car dealership. A forecourt purchase is likely to be the most expensive used-car buying option, but a buyer has the most consumer rights should something go wrong.

According to The Sale of Goods Act (SGA) 1979 (as amended), a car bought from a dealer must be:
As described
Of satisfactory quality
Fit for purpose

If the vehicle fails on any of these points within a reasonable period after purchase, you are entitled to repair, replacement, or a partial or full refund.

However, a car’s age and mileage must be taken into account before pursuing a claim, which means it’s reasonable to expect a high-mileage banger to be more problematic than a motor with low mileage. However, any car must still be:
Fit for use on the road
In a condition which reflects its age and price
Reasonably reliable

Two more points to note are that a car must be roadworthy when you buy it (unless explicitly agreed that the vehicle is to be sold as scrap), [b]and a car dealer cannot reduce the above legal rights by displaying a ‘sold as seen’ sign.
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Edited by RSoovy4 on Thursday 24th January 16:07

[Boogsie]

To add.
In the first 6 months the dealer needs to prove that they are not responsible for failures.

They need to repair or refund.

[RSoovy4]

Owren said:

To add to this, on the day the car arrived, the undertray came loose and needed to be fully replaced. Williams BMW also told me when the car was in for inspection, that the front pads and discs were corroded, and that part of the front steering rack was coming away on the left hand side. If i get a full report from BMW on this, then surely Audi have to act even for a trade sale? The car isn't roadworthy!

One more time, assuming you are an individual............

TAKE IT BACK TO AUDI, TELL THEM TO STOP DICKING YOU AROUND AND FIX IT.

How many times!!!!!!!

[Vixpy1]

If your not in the trade, they should not have sold it to you as a trade sale.

[RSoovy4]

Vixpy1 said:

If your not in the trade, they should not have sold it to you as a trade sale.

Correct, and even if they purported to, it don't mean jack.


OP - TAKE IT TO THE AUDI DEALER - TELL THEM TO FIX IT.

[haggy]

To me it sounds like you went on to autotrademail which is specifically trade only! acting falsely as a trader to buy a car at trade money. Sorry but you can't have it both ways

[smokey145]

where has it come out he was falsely acting as a trader?

[contractor]

Fwiw I had this done on mine (similar mileage but under warranty) and their quote for pump replacement is about right.

[haggy]

smokey145 said:

where has it come out he was falsely acting as a trader?

I have never heard of a trader buying a trade car & asking for a basic warranty from the dealer upon purchase

[V6 inside]

What a 5hitty thing to happen, you have my full sympathy OP.

Being a trader myself I know you cannot access Autotrade-mail without having a fully vetted account with them. Wolves Audi have sold the car as a trade sale in good faith through Autotrade-mail and have not done anything wrong. I'm sure the OP knows the score and just wants some help in trying to diagnose and fix the issue with the oil pump.

I was in the same position as the OP when searching for an V10 M6 myself. In the end I bought from a main dealer with a year AUC warranty - these cars are not worth owning without a good warranty.

I hope you can get it fixed cheaply and get a Mondial warranty on it pronto!

[Owren]

I am not a trader! A good friend of mine is, and he saw the car advertised on Auto Trade Mail. I then rang Audi as a private customer and asked them if they would invoice the car, direct to me, at the reduced trade price. They agreed with no hestitation and the invoice was raised to me as a private individual.Even with it being a trade sale, the car still has to be roadworthy for a good period of time, and this clearly wasn't the case. Audi claimed the car had gone through an extensive safety check - the day after the undertray was coming away - this was clearly not the case!