Is the tide turning in Wales
Is the tide turning in Wales
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viggen114

Original Poster:

259 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Spotted these two today from the Western Mail site.
This one is a tank driver who needs his license
tank commander
he got off with a fine for 108mph on the M4

This one is a footballer who needs to see his sick mum
footballer
he got off with a fine for 101mph on the A449. Note that "Magistrates' chairman David Henley said Robinson had a duty as a role model.

One hundred and one on a motorway - there's no excuse for it at all," he said.

Since when has the A449 been designated as a motorway.
and
"After being asked to take advice, Magistrates realised that they could not fine him more than £1,000 and lowered the fine to £800. He was also ordered to pay £35 costs."

Costs really are a lottery.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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viggen114 said:

This one is a tank driver who needs his license
he got off with a fine for 108mph on the M4



Wow...how do you tease 108mph out of a tank....?

lanciachris

3,357 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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The a449 (at least the bit i used regularly) is a hugely straight empty road with exceptional visibility. I would not call 100mph in 'normal'conditions inherently unsafe.

gh0st

4,693 posts

281 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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mybrainhurts said:

viggen114 said:

This one is a tank driver who needs his license
he got off with a fine for 108mph on the M4




Wow...how do you tease 108mph out of a tank....?


Dunno but I would want to stay the out of its way...!

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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mybrainhurts said:
Wow...how do you tease 108mph out of a tank....?
Fire an anti-tank missile at it?

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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mybrainhurts said:

viggen114 said:

This one is a tank driver who needs his license
he got off with a fine for 108mph on the M4




Wow...how do you tease 108mph out of a tank....?

Downhill presumably.... but you could take it to Rockingham for an independent assessment.

splodge s4

1,519 posts

260 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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When i was in the tankies (pull up a sandbag) i actually 'rolled' a Challenger. Yup the bloody big main battle tanks weighing just under 70 tonnes. Flat out around a corner & just like a car the back starts to go out in a slide, bit of oppisite stick (no wheel remember) but it slid to far, we hit a kerb side on, just an ordinary 4 inch kerb but the track then dug in to the grass verge & up she went. it balanced on the side plates & stayed there. One in the turret got thrown out & the other guy wedged himself in. we were donig about 40/45 mph & luckly it wasnt on the road but a proper training area. Apparantly the centre of gravity is 6 feet below ground, pretty stable you'd think but it still went over. As i was being charged the boss told me tanks dont care who they kill, good guys or bad guys.

As for getting away with speeding i often got away with it when your on leave, just flash your 'get out a jail free card' (id card) & it usually works!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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splodge s4 said:
i actually 'rolled' a Challenger. Yup the bloody big main battle tanks weighing just under 70 tonnes. Flat out around a corner & just like a car the back starts to go out in a slide, bit of oppisite stick (no wheel remember) but it slid to far, we hit a kerb side on, just an ordinary 4 inch kerb but the track then dug in to the grass verge & up she went. it balanced on the side plates & stayed there.




There goes the no claims bonus.......

Give that man a carrot.....nobody here can beat that..........can they?

kevinday

13,675 posts

303 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Splodge S4, I bet you did not need the brown part of the pattern in your DPM trousers!

andygo

7,288 posts

278 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Re: tank commander:

David Henley, the chairman, said, "We heard about your background and what you do and your clean driving licence.

"This is a one-off and we are convinced this will not happen again."

There we have a classic case of a gullible Fukcwit magistrate!

Not happen again my ar$$E.

And what precisely did he base that assumption on?

viggen114

Original Poster:

259 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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And what precisely did he base that assumption on?

The same one that makes the A449 between Kemys and the Coldra a motorway.

The point I was trying to make with this thread was that high speed on a motorway was seen by the GWENT mags as not such a serious offence as they once did. To many people arguing against them has enlightened them a little bit as to the 'motorised vehicle' and the law relating to it. But there again they did try to fine over the max and then reduced to lower than.

I stood in front of them and pleaded 'no case to answer' and they said 'what do you mean'.

8Pack

5,182 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Mmmh!! "Is The Tide turning in Wales?" Well, with ALL those Speed Camera's, who cares! I'm not going near the place.

Sorry if you've got a business there but my D/Licence is more important than a trip out there. Same goes for anywhere else with the same attitude, like Blackpool for instance. Self preservation an' all that. Europe is MUCH safer for my licence.

P.S. I STILL have "No Points!" and unlike the european song contest, that Means, I win!

splodge s4

1,519 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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kevinday said:
Splodge S4, I bet you did not need the brown part of the pattern in your DPM trousers!



yer right, nearly sick when i got out, that oops feeling. i was only charged a weeks wage so it was well worth it really!

swilly

9,699 posts

297 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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That section of the A449 has over the last few years been upgraded and resurfaced.

It is still a dual carriageway with a 70mph limit though.

I got done for a 104mph in exactly the same place as the footballer and got £300 fine and got 21 day ban instead of 6 points.

mx5rob

68 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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I might being thick here but.... if the footballer was playing at West Brom and his mother was in Brighton how the hell can he use her as an excuse for speeding in Wales?

If she was that ill why was he not going straight from Brum to Brighton??

That magistrate must not quite be all there to believe that one!!

Piccy Mate

541 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Well I do have the distinction of crashing a Landrover into a Phantom Aircraft
David

mybrainhurts said:


splodge s4 said:
i actually 'rolled' a Challenger. Yup the bloody big main battle tanks weighing just under 70 tonnes. Flat out around a corner & just like a car the back starts to go out in a slide, bit of oppisite stick (no wheel remember) but it slid to far, we hit a kerb side on, just an ordinary 4 inch kerb but the track then dug in to the grass verge & up she went. it balanced on the side plates & stayed there.






There goes the no claims bonus.......

Give that man a carrot.....nobody here can beat that..........can they?



>> Edited by Piccy Mate on Thursday 16th September 10:13

splodge s4

1,519 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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[quote=Piccy Mate]Well I do have the distinction of crashing a Landrover into a Phantom Aircraft
David


scarey! at what altitude were you, time to bail out??

Piccy Mate

541 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Altitude was ground level - I couldn't bail out as was grimly hanging on to the steering wheel
The lads in the back did bail out - some of the comments on my driving weren't very nice
Damage - One severely bent LandRover tilt and one replacement leading wing edge on Phantom.
Fined £20.00 by the Wingco and awarded a pewter mug with " Crasher" engraved on it by the section
The other driver got posted back to the UK.
David
The why's and wherefores of the accident are a long story which I won't bother with on here!

jeremyadamson

1,926 posts

282 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Hey 8Pack.....I went to Tenby in South Wales to see a friend of mine about three weeks ago. I was prepared for the cameras, and took my Origin B2 with me. I didn't need it, because there weren't any cameras. No trafpol either. Just camera vans. Loads of them. Damned unsporting, if you ask me. J.

8Pack

5,182 posts

263 months

Friday 17th September 2004
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jeremyadamson said:
Hey 8Pack.....I went to Tenby in South Wales to see a friend of mine about three weeks ago. I was prepared for the cameras, and took my Origin B2 with me. I didn't need it, because there weren't any cameras. No trafpol either. Just camera vans. Loads of them. Damned unsporting, if you ask me. J.


You're right Old man! Damned unsporting that! They should be bloody well hung! O..oh! shouldn't have said that! (cowers down and waits for inevitable reply