Suspension setup
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AlfaSpider

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231 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Right I'm going to setup my friends caterham and check corner weights and such. My questions is what is a good setup for these cars? It's used mostly on the roads and some track days.
What ride heights/ camber/ toe front and rear are people running?
Is the caster adjustable at all or is this fixed?
Any advice appreciated.

Toaster

2,940 posts

222 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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AlfaSpider said:
Right I'm going to setup my friends caterham and check corner weights and such. My questions is what is a good setup for these cars? It's used mostly on the roads and some track days.
What ride heights/ camber/ toe front and rear are people running?
Is the caster adjustable at all or is this fixed?
Any advice appreciated.
I will probably get flamed for this but wouldn't it be best and do your mate a favour tell them you dont know how to do it and send him/ her to a workshop that has expertise in this area......I will now run for the door.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

242 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Toaster said:
I will probably get flamed for this but wouldn't it be best and do your mate a favour tell them you dont know how to do it and send him/ her to a workshop that has expertise in this area......I will now run for the door.
Like a professional race mechanic? One with race car expirence should know the ins and outs of setting up a car. That's who they should go to! Don't you agree Toaster....

Toaster

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222 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Gingerbread Man said:
Like a professional race mechanic? One with race car expirence should know the ins and outs of setting up a car. That's who they should go to! Don't you agree Toaster....
Well Alfaspider may well be that man and don't want to do him a disservice but asking that question on a forum like this makes me think he may not be and as most know the car's are pretty well set up for road and occasional track use so why fiddle unless you know what you are changing and the effect its going to make.

AlfaSpider

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231 posts

227 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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No that's fine you've probably got a point! wink but I'm a race mechanic and know just a thing or two about setup. It's only the cars I normally work on are slightly different and everything is adjustable!
I'm unfamiliar with the caterham, all I'm after is some figures if anyone has them to hand.

Toaster

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222 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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AlfaSpider said:
No that's fine you've probably got a point! wink but I'm a race mechanic and know just a thing or two about setup. It's only the cars I normally work on are slightly different and everything is adjustable!
I'm unfamiliar with the caterham, all I'm after is some figures if anyone has them to hand.
Try Techtalk on Blatchat you may find something there or EFA on here I am sure Arnie would help

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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The castor is adjustable by moving the washers either side of the wishbone mounts.
Camber depends on what tyres he has fitted.

EFA

1,670 posts

292 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Rear geo depends on what engine is fitted!

HustleRussell

26,484 posts

189 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Some general ideas to start you off;
-120mm front ride height, measured from ground to lower chassis rail where the wishbone goes through the sideskin
-135mm rear height, from ground to lower chassis rail near leading edge of rear wing
-Toe Parallel +/- 0.20. Toe in for road, out for track.
-5-6 deg positive castor
-1.5 deg front negative camber for radial tyres.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

242 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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I've a K Series VVC with wet sump.

185-60-13 fronts
205-60-13 rears

Adjustable Bilsteins all around. Cheers for the comments so far guys. Any other info needed?

AlfaSpider

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231 posts

227 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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The car has the de-Dion rear end is this adjustable at the hub carrier with shims or is it fixed? I could look and figure it out but I reckon its best to ask than guess! It's running Yokohama 21rs at the monent these are ok with 1.5 negative at the front? Basically I'm not trying to change anything just check the corner weights are good and that the setup is still as it should be.

sjmmarsh

551 posts

249 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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This is a CSR setup, but gives you something to compare against. I'll see what else I can drag up - I saw one somewhere....

here

Steve

sjmmarsh

551 posts

249 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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The CSR is pretty much the same as the advice above and here also page 187 in the assembly guide

Steve

AlfaSpider

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231 posts

227 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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Thanks very much for the info that's more than enough to get things pointing in the right direction. I'm curious to know where people go for setting up this kind of car properly? There can't be many people around with a good set up patch and the know how?

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

243 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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AlfaSpider said:
Thanks very much for the info that's more than enough to get things pointing in the right direction. I'm curious to know where people go for setting up this kind of car properly? There can't be many people around with a good set up patch and the know how?
Most of the caterham race teams spy or Macmillan for example will flat floor your car for you in fact even caterham will do it. Thing is how many drivers on trackdays are consistent enough over several laps to be able to notice or measure the difference as a result of any changes they have made.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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AlfaSpider said:
Thanks very much for the info that's more than enough to get things pointing in the right direction. I'm curious to know where people go for setting up this kind of car properly? There can't be many people around with a good set up patch and the know how?
Most of the caterham race teams spy or Macmillan for example will flat floor your car for you in fact even caterham will do it. Thing is how many drivers on trackdays are consistent enough over several laps to be able to notice or measure the difference as a result of any changes they have made.

hodgre

81 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Had my car second hand from caterham. The handling was 'interesting' especially in wet.Initially thought this was normal until I did a trackday. Car was transformed after stuart at fauldsport set it up. He also pointed out and corrected one or two other issues.Hoping to see what it is like on track this weekend.

sjmmarsh

551 posts

249 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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I found the setup sheet that Caterham use:

Data Sheet

Steve

AlfaSpider

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227 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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Just what I was after cheers!

grenpayne

2,082 posts

191 months

Wednesday 6th February 2013
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hodgre said:
Had my car second hand from caterham. The handling was 'interesting' especially in wet.Initially thought this was normal until I did a trackday. Car was transformed after stuart at fauldsport set it up. He also pointed out and corrected one or two other issues.Hoping to see what it is like on track this weekend.
Any update at all? Be interested to find out your thoughts as I'm not entirely happy with my setup.