Good time to buy a L322?
Good time to buy a L322?
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Playsatan

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583 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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I've been lusting after a Range Rover or Sport for quite a while now but haven't followed through with a purchase, despite fairly obsessive searching. I always thought I'd end up with the RRS due to my budget restrictions (circa £17 - £18k) but have seen some very nice FF's for similar miles and prices.

I'll leave aside the which is better debate to the myriad of other threads on the subject and focus on one question - which would be better from a depreciation point of view?

I do relatively little miles in a year (>5k) so depreciation will likely be the main expense. With the new model now available is the bottom likely to fall out of the L322 market or at my price point is the damage already done?


anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Residuals may have dropped, running costs and maintenance haven't.
Granted you get a heck of a lot of car for the money though.

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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At that sort of price bracket, most of the money has already fallen out of the residuals and both cars have levelled off to about the same. TBH - There's not much in it.

Either way, if you're getting a diesel, it has to be a TDV8.

If you're not doing many miles PA, the check out the Supercharged options. wink

M

bogie

16,927 posts

296 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Id agree - not much in it ...although you will get more Sport for your money (newer/less miles)

and you get more petrol for your money too...so if only doing a few thousand a year, Supercharged is the way to go

diesel cost more for the car, the fuel, and servicing...so you need to be doing the miles to make them pay


Playsatan

Original Poster:

583 posts

251 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Thanks for the input guys.

I did expect the "go for the petrol" comments and can understand why you'd say that based on the info I provided. Thing is although I don't do that many miles a year (commute by motorbike so car just sits there Monday - Friday) I do keep them for a long time. I had my last car for over 8 years so it does add up. Plus, petrol ones do seems to be more difficult to shift when the time does come.

Last of the low tax brackets ones seem to go for similar money but I'm wondering if that will change as the new FF's become more common. Of course the new sport will level the playing field somewhat but thats a thread for next year.

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Playsatan said:
...but I'm wondering if that will change as the new FF's become more common. Of course the new sport will level the playing field somewhat but thats a thread for next year.
If you keep thinking like that, there will NEVER be a good time to buy a car. wink

M

piecost76

294 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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I agree with the OP on here:

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic14339.html

At 5k miles a year, the AJV8 engine FFRR is the best buy. Or even a Supercharged...

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

223 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Supercharged are also the best spec from scratch: until 2008 they cam with back TV screens as standard, ideal for kids, and from 2008 they had air cooled seats. They also come with the premium HKardon sound and other few gizmos.

bogie

16,927 posts

296 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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yeah, and its only the newer diesels that were significantly better on fuel to actually make a difference to overall cost

on the older 3.0 diesel you were lucky to get 25mpg from it...and easy enough to get 18mpg from the petrol....7mpg difference when the fuel is more expensive anyway+ extra servicing + the dodgy diesel gearbox

...nah, petrol all the way for me smile

the newer 3.6 or 4.4 diesel V8s are very nice however and a different ball game....but they are not £18k yet frown

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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In principle, I'd agree but be careful with the maths...

Sure you'd get 20mpg from the SC but if you apply the same amount of care to a TDV8, you'll get nearly 30mpg!!

M

mercGLowner

1,668 posts

208 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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For my education, is it just the diesel that has the weak, prone to failure auto gearbox? If so, is the petrol 'box pretty reliable?

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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mercGLowner said:
For my education, is it just the diesel that has the weak, prone to failure auto gearbox? If so, is the petrol 'box pretty reliable?
The 5-speed TD6 diesels had GM gearboxes made of cheese. The rest of the variants had a 6-8 speed ZF which so far has been much better. I wouldn't rule out gearbox issues on a later model though as it's a heavy car and some of them do get abused.

Playsatan

Original Poster:

583 posts

251 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Ok, starting to close in on a few examples, mainly FF td6's.

I've read the PH buyers guide but it seems a little light on tech detail on what to look out for. If I go ahead I'll be looking to get an 06 facelift model, is that a wise choice reliability wise? Also for the ones that have a reported FSH what are the intervals and big milestones for belt changes etc?

Once again all input is appreciated.

jdwoodbury

1,372 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Having owned an MY08 RRS and looking at at MY11 FFRR later in the year I would not be overly optimistic about reliability. I had a whole heap of problems with my RRS ( mostly electrical) and would not contemplate running one out of warranty.

Still fantastic cars though!

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Seriously... TDV8 is the only engine worth going for.

M

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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camel_landy said:
Seriously... TDV8 is the only engine worth going for.

M
Only the 4.4 TDV8 could lure me away from my SC petrol engine. And even then I'd regret not switching to a 5.0 SC ....

camel_landy

5,418 posts

207 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
camel_landy said:
Seriously... TDV8 is the only engine worth going for.

M
Only the 4.4 TDV8 could lure me away from my SC petrol engine. And even then I'd regret not switching to a 5.0 SC ....
OK, maybe I should have said "TDV8 is the only DIESEL engine..." hehe

M

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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camel_landy said:
OK, maybe I should have said "TDV8 is the only DIESEL engine..." hehe

M
You are forgiven wink

Playsatan

Original Poster:

583 posts

251 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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camel_landy said:
Seriously... TDV8 is the only engine worth going for.

M
Hmmmm.

Whilst I try not to ignore advice (especially if I asked for it) I was hoping to avoid budget slip on this purchase. What to do, what to do.

JamesK

2,124 posts

303 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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The 3.6 TDV8 may be just in budget. For your stated use I would really be getting a petrol V8 though. The TD6 is not worth the money you're talking, either day to day or resale in my opinion. Vastly inferior.