Dangerous Flights
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surveyor

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18,689 posts

213 months

Wednesday 30th January 2013
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Anyone been watching this show?

Some interesting decisions being made by the boss....

richie slow

7,569 posts

193 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yes I wouldn't fly with him eek

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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How does this work with Type Rating for all the different aircraft they fly?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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doogz said:
Some dodgy decisions, his flying seems a bit ropey too?

Although seeing someone else snatching control from him on touchdown was a bit off. It was his second attempt, if you didn't like his first that much, take control then and do it yourself. Don't let him do it, then snatch control at the last second.
Indeed. That's not something you should ever do unless you feel there is a serious life threatening situation developing.

carreauchompeur

18,317 posts

233 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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This is a brilliant series, I've really enjoyed it so far. It must be incredible doing the long multi-hop flights, but some of the fuel situations have seemed very marginal!

Gives me a serious yearning to get a PPL!

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

261 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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Fav TV programme at the moment...A bit ice road truckers in places(will they / wont they crash...surprise surprise they dont) but overall very watchable if you like GA!

jonnyb

2,590 posts

281 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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CAPP0 said:
How does this work with Type Rating for all the different aircraft they fly?
You don't need one, as long as the aircraft is below 5.7T (EU) we only separate between single engine, multi engine, and complex types.

As for aircraft over 5.7T, such as the king air, metro liner, and Dornier. You would need a type rating, but this can be very straight forward and done in a afternoon, if you know the right people.

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Since I posted I watched the episode with the UN Dornier and saw Randy having his "training" on that one!

JuniorD

9,013 posts

252 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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From tonight's episode:

ATC: Concentration of vultures on final approach.
Non-handling pilot: Vultures, vultures vultures! Turn right!

<Cue footage of small flock of birds of swift size and silhouette fluttering around> hehe


Zeek

882 posts

233 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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After seeing this thread I watched the whole series on the Discovery CA site. Shame they only made 8 - very watchable, and I'm looking forward to series 2!

FuzzyLogic

1,668 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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jonnyb said:
You don't need one, as long as the aircraft is below 5.7T (EU) we only separate between single engine, multi engine, and complex types.

As for aircraft over 5.7T, such as the king air, metro liner, and Dornier. You would need a type rating, but this can be very straight forward and done in a afternoon, if you know the right people.
I assume you are referring to FAA land Jonny as any JET aircraft requires a type rating in JAA land irrelevant of weight.

ccr32

1,983 posts

247 months

Tuesday 5th February 2013
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I have been watching this with interest too. It is quite obviously hammed up a lot to meet Discovery's seemingly normal drama levels for its programming (cue dramatic music, repeated loops of "ah, this is bad news" or "I'm not sure we're gonna make it", stall and master caution alarms, etc.), but if you can see past that I like to see the variation of what they fly, where they fly them, and how they get them there.

Agree with some of the other posters though that I am hoping that Corey Benson (the boss) has been told by the show's producers to give them something to film otherwise some of his decision making would appear to be questionable to say the least!

carreauchompeur

18,317 posts

233 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Just catching up with the last one now. That Embraer is a beautiful plane. Cockpit looks a tad cramped though!

Beati Dogu

9,374 posts

168 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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It's entertaining, but I can't help thinking it would be much cheaper to take the wings off, stick the plane in a container and ship it to the destination. Paying for two pilots, fuel, expenses etc to fly it half way round the world must cost a bloody fortune.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

281 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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FuzzyLogic said:
jonnyb said:
You don't need one, as long as the aircraft is below 5.7T (EU) we only separate between single engine, multi engine, and complex types.

As for aircraft over 5.7T, such as the king air, metro liner, and Dornier. You would need a type rating, but this can be very straight forward and done in a afternoon, if you know the right people.
I assume you are referring to FAA land Jonny as any JET aircraft requires a type rating in JAA land irrelevant of weight.
To be honest I hadn't been keeping up with the changes. So you need a separate type rating for jet aircraft under 5.7T? Makes sense.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

290 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Beati Dogu said:
It's entertaining, but I can't help thinking it would be much cheaper to take the wings off, stick the plane in a container and ship it to the destination. Paying for two pilots, fuel, expenses etc to fly it half way round the world must cost a bloody fortune.
If it was cheaper that way that is what they would do. The problem is that most aircraft aren't designed to have the wings taken off and put back that easily.

There wa a case of few years back when the IWM at Duxford wanted a B29. They found one in the US that wasn't flyable, but they only wanted it for static display so that wasn't an issue. But it turned out that the easiest way to get it across the atlantic was to restore it to flying condition purely for the trip.

carreauchompeur

18,317 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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Another thing I wonder is...

They fly the plane into, say, a ranch or a remote airstrip in Brazil. How do they get home? Does the new plane owner give them a lift to the nearest main airport?!?

Manicminer

12,565 posts

226 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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doogz said:
Watching this show the other night, did the figure $10k not get mentioned? for flying a small aircraft from the states, to Argentina?

By the time you pay the pilots, fuel, airport fees etc, there's probably not much left.
Even if there's only $2k profit it's worth doing. I'd imagine most of his bread and butter stuff is much shorter trips though.

Leithen

13,970 posts

296 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

178 months

Tuesday 26th February 2013
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I went off it after the King Air episode when they flew out of Shoreham & showed the pilots snapping pics of the white cliffs of Dover...over Beachy Head.

Add in the Top Gun music, endlessly recycled stock footage & powerfully built goatee & I find I can get my interest tickled elsewhere.