rear brakes
rear brakes
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bobs280i

Original Poster:

290 posts

170 months

Wednesday 30th January 2013
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hey i have a problem with my rear brakes , it has worn one off the brake pads down to nothing ,
I removed the pad to find the piston will not re-tracked , replace or try to repair ? also are they jag parts ? it looks a bh to re place ,(job for spring time )

Rockettvr

2,020 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Sounds like you've got a seized piston. Rear brakes are jag. I got a recon set from a company in Colchester Essex called ward engineering (google jag axles) paid about £110 but ithink they've gone up quite a bit in the last couple of years since. Got mine off ok - it's a bit of an awkward job but do-able smile

bobs280i

Original Poster:

290 posts

170 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Thanks Rockettvr ,for the quick reply , do you know if they are xjs or xj12 , not looking forward to this job but nice to hear its do-able , as at factory it would not have had the body on I'm sure ,

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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They are XJ6 and some XJS... earlier Jags had a slightly different version and later ones went to outboard calipers which are different again.

You can get stainless pistons for them if you want to push the boat out. You may find the bleed nipple shears off when you try to bleed them so crack it off (or drill it out, as I had to) when the calipers are on the bench.

Here are my calipers being overhauled...

http://www.wedgeneering.co.uk/TVR%20390SE%20p11.ht...

How you extract them may be down to the route your exhaust takes: on my car it was easiest to move the calipers across to the lefthand side and do a Krypton Factor Wiggle (tm) to get them out through the chassis tubes.

The most fun is probably in getting the caliper bolts out... whistle

In hidsight it'd be quicker to drop the diff and work on the brakes in comfort... but then dropping the diff opens various other cans of worms:

http://www.wedgeneering.co.uk/TVR%20390SE%20p13.ht...

Good luck! biggrin


Rockettvr

2,020 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Not sure which jag models are fitted with the same set-up but it's pretty much any model with the jaguar IRS definitely E-types and early xj saloons and I think the xjs - someone on here will be able to give you a definitive answer. Was able to remove the rear calliper s in about 40 mins getting them back on took longer. You have to work round/through the chassis tubes and prop - awkward and dirty but not impossible smile

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Rockettvr said:
Jaguar IRS smile
I keep meaning to get one of those 'IRS' badges for the back of my 390... it's my initials biggrin

superwedge

1,286 posts

178 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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i think you could use a big g cramp .to put that back in, give it a go first, then if not your have to take off,your need finger,s like baby too get in there.

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Any tips for getting the rear calliper bolts out Ian?

I bought a complete trailing arm rear end (inc drive shafts, diff, brakes etc) for peanuts off fleeb@y a while ago and when I came to strip it down one of the bolts is seized with a mashed head.


Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Danny Hoffman said:
Any tips for getting the rear calliper bolts out Ian?

I bought a complete trailing arm rear end (inc drive shafts, diff, brakes etc) for peanuts off fleeb@y a while ago and when I came to strip it down one of the bolts is seized with a mashed head.
Hmmm, good one that Danny... if the usual suspects of heat and chisels won't persude the bolt to turn, can you get a thin cutting disc or hacksaw through the head, flush with the caliper casting? If you could do that you could prise the caliper enough towards the diff to get a saw through the shank of the bolt, lift the caliper and disc off and drill out the remains from the caliper bracket.

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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I was a bit nervous of cutting the head off as there didn't appear to be much room to move the calliper once it was free. I did think about trying to weld a bar to the bolt head

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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That could work as well but I'm always nervous about welding anything with bearings in it in case the weld current finds a path through the balls and spot-welds them to the races. Of course they'd break free but the resultant surface damage wouldn't bode well.

Another way I thought of earlier when I test-assembled one caliper and disc to my diff which is still on the bench, would be to remove the 4 bolts joining the caliper halves. You could then split the caliper, get the disc out of the way and drill the bolt out from the threaded end. Start off small and work up, by the time you're close to the bolt diameter the head should chisel off no problem. Sometimes the heat of drilling frees the bolt off anyway.

Not sure you would get a grinder in there; maybe with a brand new disc fitted.

Either way, once the bolt is free to turn there are only about 10-12 threads into the caliper bracket.

Number 7

4,113 posts

292 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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I would definitely replace both of the calipers - if one is seized, the other will probably be in similar condition internally. Don't forget to remove (and replace) the lockwire securing the caliper bolts - not easy to do in situ, but definitely needed. I seem to recall the NS is the one which is very tight on clearance btween the chassis tubes to remove the caliper, but it should eventually go.

superwedge

1,286 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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take it all off ,and give it a good clean upsmash