Sagaris acceleration time
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Autocar 0-100-0 times from 2005:
1) Suzuki GSX-R1000 10.82sec
2) Ariel Atom Supercharged 10.88sec
3) Caterham CSR 260 11.41sec
4) Westfield 2000S 12.27 sec
5) Ford GT 13.17sec
6) Noble MT400 13.51sec (60 in 3.72sec, 100 in 8.80sec, braking 4.32sec)
7) TVR Sagaris 13.71sec (60 in 4.14sec, 100 in 9.16sec, braking 4.29sec)
8) BMW M5 14.16sec (60 in 4.69sec, 100 in 9.71sec, braking 4.21)
9) TVR Cerbera (Phil James' 500bhp Cerbera) 14.54sec (60 in 4.37sec, 100 in 9.03sec, braking 5.19sec)
10) Dodge Viper SRT-10 14.62sec
11) Aston Martin DB9 Manual 14.92sec
12) Mitsubishi Evo IX 15.15sec
13) Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 15.32sec
14) Porsche 911 Carrera S 15.39sec
15) Aston Martin Vanquish S 15.45sec
16) Invicta S1 16.10sec
1) Suzuki GSX-R1000 10.82sec
2) Ariel Atom Supercharged 10.88sec
3) Caterham CSR 260 11.41sec
4) Westfield 2000S 12.27 sec
5) Ford GT 13.17sec
6) Noble MT400 13.51sec (60 in 3.72sec, 100 in 8.80sec, braking 4.32sec)
7) TVR Sagaris 13.71sec (60 in 4.14sec, 100 in 9.16sec, braking 4.29sec)
8) BMW M5 14.16sec (60 in 4.69sec, 100 in 9.71sec, braking 4.21)
9) TVR Cerbera (Phil James' 500bhp Cerbera) 14.54sec (60 in 4.37sec, 100 in 9.03sec, braking 5.19sec)
10) Dodge Viper SRT-10 14.62sec
11) Aston Martin DB9 Manual 14.92sec
12) Mitsubishi Evo IX 15.15sec
13) Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 15.32sec
14) Porsche 911 Carrera S 15.39sec
15) Aston Martin Vanquish S 15.45sec
16) Invicta S1 16.10sec
monty quick said:
Bending this topic a little - does anyone know what the 0-60mph time for a T350 should be? My Dynolicious system suggests that my standard (other than ACT exhaust) T350T manages it in 4.40seconds which sounds too good to be true?
Not familiar with Dynolicious but could be right. I may be talking rubbish but I think it depends on which final drive you've got which will put 60 either at the top end of 1st or require a change into 2nd?monty quick said:
Bending this topic a little - does anyone know what the 0-60mph time for a T350 should be? My Dynolicious system suggests that my standard (other than ACT exhaust) T350T manages it in 4.40seconds which sounds too good to be true?
Evo quote 4.7 to 60 and 10.0 dead for 100.This is from their actual tests as well rather than manufacturer figures (bold numbers in the lists at the back)
Thanks guys.
JRB - If you are talking rubbish I wouldn't know! In my car I do have to grab second at about 60mph.
I have seen several different figures in the 4's with 4.40 being the best.
I am not going to keep trying because I do not want to knacker the clutch or the tyres.
I am happy to believe 4.7 is probably about right - whatever, it is pretty fast.
JRB - If you are talking rubbish I wouldn't know! In my car I do have to grab second at about 60mph.
I have seen several different figures in the 4's with 4.40 being the best.
I am not going to keep trying because I do not want to knacker the clutch or the tyres.
I am happy to believe 4.7 is probably about right - whatever, it is pretty fast.
There's a skill in getting the fastest 0-60 from a particular car - I don't have that skill, as probably many other drivers don't, so if you're 10% slower than Autocar or TVR figures, good chance the Noble driver next to you at the lights is 10% slower than Autocar figures for his car too 
CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
Zippee said:
monty quick said:
Bending this topic a little - does anyone know what the 0-60mph time for a T350 should be? My Dynolicious system suggests that my standard (other than ACT exhaust) T350T manages it in 4.40seconds which sounds too good to be true?
Evo quote 4.7 to 60 and 10.0 dead for 100.This is from their actual tests as well rather than manufacturer figures (bold numbers in the lists at the back)
In practice the road test models are gooduns and new, driven by a experienced driver who doesn't own the car.
RedSpike66 said:
There's a skill in getting the fastest 0-60 from a particular car - I don't have that skill, as probably many other drivers don't, so if you're 10% slower than Autocar or TVR figures, good chance the Noble driver next to you at the lights is 10% slower than Autocar figures for his car too
CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
Early 2005 Sag with no AC, R888s, CR box, 3.91 on a hot day, starting on a very good surface. Rear running 1deg neg camber.CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
0-100 8.1 seconds. (25 years sprinting and hillclimbing experience so not bad at launching a car
)Edited by TVR_owner on Friday 1st February 07:59
Talksteer said:
In practice the road test models are gooduns and new, driven by a experienced driver who doesn't own the car.
I was present at one magazine road test session and on that particular session the driver didn't use the clutch just smashed from first to second without using the clutch to minimise the 0-60 time. He wasn't worried about things breaking.An important thing to consider is actually getting the car moving to start with. The road surface, tyres, temperature and driver all have an effect. In reality you are unlikely to get an optimum launch on a normal road surface with normal road tyres.
Some motorsport disciplines provide timing from standing start to 64feet. The most impressive two wheel drive production cars off the line tend to be 1970s 911s like an rsr or an rs which if using very sticky slicks and have a particularly capable driver will just creep under 2 seconds on warm dry day. Normally the road surface at the start line will be very very grippy as it is coated in rubber from previous starts.
Typically reasonably quick two wheel drive cars which are not 911s including tvrs from Griff 500 onwards tend to be around 2.2-2.3 seconds provided they have decent rubber.
Now I have no idea how fast you are going at 64feet if it arrived in 2 seconds but it is a long way short of 60.
Some motorsport disciplines provide timing from standing start to 64feet. The most impressive two wheel drive production cars off the line tend to be 1970s 911s like an rsr or an rs which if using very sticky slicks and have a particularly capable driver will just creep under 2 seconds on warm dry day. Normally the road surface at the start line will be very very grippy as it is coated in rubber from previous starts.
Typically reasonably quick two wheel drive cars which are not 911s including tvrs from Griff 500 onwards tend to be around 2.2-2.3 seconds provided they have decent rubber.
Now I have no idea how fast you are going at 64feet if it arrived in 2 seconds but it is a long way short of 60.
TVR_owner said:
RedSpike66 said:
There's a skill in getting the fastest 0-60 from a particular car - I don't have that skill, as probably many other drivers don't, so if you're 10% slower than Autocar or TVR figures, good chance the Noble driver next to you at the lights is 10% slower than Autocar figures for his car too
CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
Early 2005 Sag with no AC, R888s, CR box, 3.91 on a hot day, starting on a very good surface. Rear running 1deg neg camber.CR box and 3.73 diff is 61mph in first and that is worth a few tenths apparently. Will do 101 in 2nd too !!
0-100 8.1 seconds. (25 years sprinting and hillclimbing experience so not bad at launching a car
)
I always turn the Aircon off if I'm taking anyone on too myself
Edited by RedSpike66 on Friday 1st February 22:28
RedSpike66 said:
8.1... Wow ! Well Done ! I reckon that makes each year's experience worth about 0.06 secs
I always turn the Aircon off if I'm taking anyone on too myself
Sorry just read your response correctly. Just ignore the claim, it's probably just a load of bI always turn the Aircon off if I'm taking anyone on too myself
Edited by RedSpike66 on Friday 1st February 22:28
ks.Edited by TVR_owner on Saturday 2nd February 22:17
steve-V8s said:
An important thing to consider is actually getting the car moving to start with. The road surface, tyres, temperature and driver all have an effect. In reality you are unlikely to get an optimum launch on a normal road surface with normal road tyres.
Some motorsport disciplines provide timing from standing start to 64feet. The most impressive two wheel drive production cars off the line tend to be 1970s 911s like an rsr or an rs which if using very sticky slicks and have a particularly capable driver will just creep under 2 seconds on warm dry day. Normally the road surface at the start line will be very very grippy as it is coated in rubber from previous starts.
Typically reasonably quick two wheel drive cars which are not 911s including tvrs from Griff 500 onwards tend to be around 2.2-2.3 seconds provided they have decent rubber.
Now I have no idea how fast you are going at 64feet if it arrived in 2 seconds but it is a long way short of 60.
Yes it all comes down to grip for near optimum acceleration times. 64 feet is the first timing mark in sprints and hillclimbs. For some reason its 60 foot at the dragstrips. I think times are taken from the green light in sprints etc so there is also a driver reaction to consider. In drag racing a small advantage can be had by shallow staging. The timing does not begin until you break the timing beam which may be 14 inches from where you actually set off. A small distance but significant. Some motorsport disciplines provide timing from standing start to 64feet. The most impressive two wheel drive production cars off the line tend to be 1970s 911s like an rsr or an rs which if using very sticky slicks and have a particularly capable driver will just creep under 2 seconds on warm dry day. Normally the road surface at the start line will be very very grippy as it is coated in rubber from previous starts.
Typically reasonably quick two wheel drive cars which are not 911s including tvrs from Griff 500 onwards tend to be around 2.2-2.3 seconds provided they have decent rubber.
Now I have no idea how fast you are going at 64feet if it arrived in 2 seconds but it is a long way short of 60.
Most TVRs on road tyres struggle to better 2.2 to 60 foot on a relatively stick drag strip. I and others have achieved mid 1.8s on tyres such as 888's.
I now run Mickey Thompson Street ETs and have run a 1.70 at the pod.
This equates to a 0-60 in the low 3's
Here is a ticket from York with a good launch. 0-100 in under 7.5 I reckon.
York also run a 0-60 mph camera in the right hand lane at some of their meetings.
A good opportunity to put your car to the test and get real proof for the bar room debates
Edited by db418BHP on Monday 4th February 08:03
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