How do I decat the main Y-piece???
How do I decat the main Y-piece???
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chris1972

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3,597 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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I've received Phazed's old Y-piece (thanks Peter).

I'd like to decat it (main cat). Anyway of doing this without opening and re-welding?

Cheers
Chris

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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erm......no.

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Only way I could think of is using some sort of acid but I'm 99% sure it won't work

It's not as easy as it looks, I did mine and I'd never do it again

macdeb

8,759 posts

285 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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As far as I know [stand to be corrected] it's quite a free-flowing cat due to it's size and I can see that any botched attempt may well block it somewhat and some report of a 'bag of marbles' sound after.
Must admit I'm tempted by Clives y piece. [note to self, must stop spending money on it banghead ]

Julesprivate

871 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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There is a std y-piece on eBay at the moment and I was considering buying it but I am given to understand that de-catting it does make the sound resonate a bit and give it the "motor boat" tone I dislike so much...

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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It DOES make a decent difference having a decat back to back I was almost 30hp up!

I spent hours and hours trying to remove what was in there, and welded it back up

It never sounded like a tugboat or any thing like that, the noise was't much louder just a better noise




chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

167 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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I was considering using a cutting disc to position some alignment marks and then cutting at the weld, before removing the cat. As I don't possess any welding equipment, I was going take it down to a local workshop to have it rewelded.

I see you have a load of tape etc on your decatted Y-piece. Any reason?

I would like to consider one of Clive's Y-pieces, but it is a matter of budget. I reckon I could get this decatted for about £30 all in, which is a good compromise.

Mr Supercharged

499 posts

187 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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I think it is harder than it looks, firstly when you weld something you tend to get a lot of distortion. Secondly if you cut it with a disc unless you get a uniform cut all the way around it wont go back together in the same place. To be safe I think you either a) have to make a jig to hold it at the the ends where you connect up or b) have to offer it up in the car, connect it up to the manifolds and the silencer and tack weld where you can get to and fully weld as much as possible so that you have it right. Just my opinion......

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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use a sharp scriber, make 3 vertical lines, at 12 oclock, 4 and 8 around the circumference of the pipe below the top weld,then get a long enough piece of card at least 2" wide and long enough to wrap around the whole of the pipe with the 2 ends meeting up to each other, position this below the weld so that it crosses over your 3 vertical lines,now, mark the pipe around the edge of the card, you should now have a straight line around the circumference of the pipe, then use a grider with a 1mm thick cutting disc, carefully cut the pipe keeping a straight line around the pipe.

remove cat, position the pipe back together, providing your cut was straight the two pieces should mate together perfectly, align the 3 vertical lines, tack weld in place, put back on car and check, if all ok weld the pipe back up.

up to you, but normally this will sound like a tractor, as you are letting the exhaust gases flow into a big dustbin like container, swirling around trying to find thier way out of the 3" pipe at the bottom, not good for flow, ergo performance.
but cheap to do if you like the sound it gives, but then you may need the cat when it comes to the mot??

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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The hard bit is removing the cat it self, you will see biggrin

Clive - mine never sounded like a tractor or even close to it, neither did Peters

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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chris1972 said:
I see you have a load of tape etc on your decatted Y-piece. Any reason?

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It's heat wrap not tape, serves two purposes, firstly keeps underbonnet temps down a bit as it keeps heat in the pipework rather than radiating it outwards to other componants that might not last as long otherwise ...secondly the containment of the heat in the exhaust gasses speeds up the flow through the system.
My precats were removed by the previous owner in much the same method, as there are alignment marks scribed on the manifolds were they were cut open.

macdeb

8,759 posts

285 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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GasMunkey said:
So, you bandaged it back together?
[sorry bloke] getmecoat

macdeb

8,759 posts

285 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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clive f said:
not good for flow, ergo performance.
Still tempted by your kit Clive, any still going?

chris1972

Original Poster:

3,597 posts

167 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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Guys, how did you remove the cat?

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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macdeb said:
Still tempted by your kit Clive, any still going?
1 left, 3 enquiries, first to show the dosh gets it.hehe

OleVix

1,438 posts

178 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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chris1972 said:
Guys, how did you remove the cat?
Save your time/money and wait until you can buy clives Y-piece. People have done this before you and a big empty dustbin is not the way to go...

GasMunkey

5,697 posts

209 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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chris1972 said:
Guys, how did you remove the cat?
3 of us holding it and a hydraulic jack hammer worked best in the end

db418BHP

8,676 posts

250 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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lick


phazed

22,509 posts

234 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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My decatted dustbin is noisier but that's all IMHO!

Anyone who wants a listen can.

db418BHP

8,676 posts

250 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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phazed said:
My decatted dustbin is noisier but that's all IMHO!

Anyone who wants a listen can.
Whens it on the rollers Peter?
and dont give us any of that running in nonsense tongue out