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My weight has been steadily increasing since birth, with some fluctuations along the way caused by dieting/exercise effort, but there is a general upwards trend, leading to me being the heaviest I have ever been. I'm 6ft 3in tall.
I've tried all sorts of dieting, cycling to work, going to the gym. I'm a greedy git, I eat far too much, portion control is non existant, have no self control over the things I shouldn't eat, example, today, 3 streaky rashers, 1 large tomato, 2 eggs, box of salad with tuna, 2 satsumas, one apple, one sausage roll, one pack monster munch, one large twix and still dinner to go.
I wish I could get my eating under control, I can manage for a few weeks, loose a few pounds then loose the plot and get back on the snickers. I don't cope with hunger at all, get very grumpy, then over eat far too much.
I really want to drop at least 2 stone, but I can't find the self control at all. Right now, in fact, for about 3 months, I'm completely lost with it.
I've tried all sorts of dieting, cycling to work, going to the gym. I'm a greedy git, I eat far too much, portion control is non existant, have no self control over the things I shouldn't eat, example, today, 3 streaky rashers, 1 large tomato, 2 eggs, box of salad with tuna, 2 satsumas, one apple, one sausage roll, one pack monster munch, one large twix and still dinner to go.
I wish I could get my eating under control, I can manage for a few weeks, loose a few pounds then loose the plot and get back on the snickers. I don't cope with hunger at all, get very grumpy, then over eat far too much.
I really want to drop at least 2 stone, but I can't find the self control at all. Right now, in fact, for about 3 months, I'm completely lost with it.
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter what you eat or how much you eat, just that you burn more calories in the average day than you consume. Work out how many calories a day you consume and then look at upping your exercise routine until you start losing weight.
If you eat a lot of crap, you will need to absolutely bust your arse to burn it off and it's not the healthiest way to lose weight either but you'll lose it. But if you can get into the habit of working out and noticing your writ coming down or you leaning up a little, it might motivate your to eat healthier and snack on healthier snacks.
If you eat a lot of crap, you will need to absolutely bust your arse to burn it off and it's not the healthiest way to lose weight either but you'll lose it. But if you can get into the habit of working out and noticing your writ coming down or you leaning up a little, it might motivate your to eat healthier and snack on healthier snacks.
Regiment said:
In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter what you eat or how much you eat, just that you burn more calories in the average day than you consume. Work out how many calories a day you consume and then look at upping your exercise routine until you start losing weight.
If you eat a lot of crap, you will need to absolutely bust your arse to burn it off and it's not the healthiest way to lose weight either but you'll lose it. But if you can get into the habit of working out and noticing your writ coming down or you leaning up a little, it might motivate your to eat healthier and snack on healthier snacks.
Yes, I fully comprehend all that, its not rocket science (I was once a rocket scientist too! Working on warheads, any how...) but putting it into practice in a long series of fails. I kind of feel like i need some psychological help with it.If you eat a lot of crap, you will need to absolutely bust your arse to burn it off and it's not the healthiest way to lose weight either but you'll lose it. But if you can get into the habit of working out and noticing your writ coming down or you leaning up a little, it might motivate your to eat healthier and snack on healthier snacks.
BBC Horizon documentary.
ETA
Alternatively, I find eating according to the primal blueprint or paleo diet very helpful, especially combined with fasting; e.g. Primal Blueprint.
ETA
Alternatively, I find eating according to the primal blueprint or paleo diet very helpful, especially combined with fasting; e.g. Primal Blueprint.
Edited by LordGrover on Friday 1st February 15:12
SignalGruen said:
There's no silver bullet for this,
Yes there is. Drink water. Ice cold and loads of it. Give up tea and coffee and just have water. Halve your portions and have a huge glass of water with every meal. If you get peckish between meals ...have another large glass of water.I guess what I'm trying to say, if you can read between the lines, if drink loads of water.
This thread made me laugh, not because the OP cant lose weight I might say, but because there's some funny writing going on.
Primal Blueprint is ace - that'll help you lose weight for sure.
I've always found it was habit - I used to be hungry all the f
king time. Could never understand how people ate less. So started eating less, and it was hell, but then it stopped being hell, and then I couldn't understand how people wanted to eat all the time... then realised I was eating out of habit!
Lunch time. Hunger as if it were set by an alarm clock. But not on weekends? It was pure habit driving my hunger.
Primal Blueprint is ace - that'll help you lose weight for sure.
I've always found it was habit - I used to be hungry all the f
king time. Could never understand how people ate less. So started eating less, and it was hell, but then it stopped being hell, and then I couldn't understand how people wanted to eat all the time... then realised I was eating out of habit!Lunch time. Hunger as if it were set by an alarm clock. But not on weekends? It was pure habit driving my hunger.
OP i was like you, only i'm 26.
Dinner if i was going via Mcdonalds was 4 double cheeseburgers & a fanta.
Or a large pizza from domino's if i was feeling like pizza.
Basically anything i wanted and huge portions.
I've enrolled in a 12 week 'fitness challenge'.
Starting weight was 212lbs, 28% body fat & i was really unfit, 20mins power walking on the x-trainer ruined me.
I'm just about to complete the 4th week, i'm on 199lbs now & cover around 5km on the x-trainer in half an hour now.
Diet is strict, work out routine is strict with a PT session a week.
THe only way you will combat it is if you WANT TOO.
I got sick of seeing a fat bd stood in front of me in the mirror & wearing 40" trousers.
So i did something about it.
If you want it you'll achieve it!
Dinner if i was going via Mcdonalds was 4 double cheeseburgers & a fanta.
Or a large pizza from domino's if i was feeling like pizza.
Basically anything i wanted and huge portions.
I've enrolled in a 12 week 'fitness challenge'.
Starting weight was 212lbs, 28% body fat & i was really unfit, 20mins power walking on the x-trainer ruined me.
I'm just about to complete the 4th week, i'm on 199lbs now & cover around 5km on the x-trainer in half an hour now.
Diet is strict, work out routine is strict with a PT session a week.
THe only way you will combat it is if you WANT TOO.
I got sick of seeing a fat b
d stood in front of me in the mirror & wearing 40" trousers.So i did something about it.
If you want it you'll achieve it!
I went on the Eat Less Move More mantra
For 3 weeks I calorie counted, so I now have a good idea of what I consumed, have always kept this to less than 2500, working on the basis of 3500 less input calories is a pound lost in weight. Having mastered that now, I do 6 days where I'm careful, and 1 day where I ma less so (but don't do mad). More exercise helps as well.
I'm targeting a 2.5 stone loss by the end of April having started at the beginning of January, lost just over half a stone so far so bang on target.
Once you get into the swing of things it's really not difficult. Drink lots of water as well.
For 3 weeks I calorie counted, so I now have a good idea of what I consumed, have always kept this to less than 2500, working on the basis of 3500 less input calories is a pound lost in weight. Having mastered that now, I do 6 days where I'm careful, and 1 day where I ma less so (but don't do mad). More exercise helps as well.
I'm targeting a 2.5 stone loss by the end of April having started at the beginning of January, lost just over half a stone so far so bang on target.
Once you get into the swing of things it's really not difficult. Drink lots of water as well.
Edited by DavidY on Friday 1st February 17:05
Hoofy said:
If you can't manage your intake and can't discipline yourself to follow a "diet" for life, then you better work harder in the gym. I hear Michael Phelps ate up to 14,000 calories a day. So, you could try swimming... 6 hours a day.
Tim Ferris (love or hate him) put an interesting theory forwards for this; that water saps heat from your body quicker than air. The heat exchange caused him to burn all those calories. I think it was a NASA scientist who worked it out.But then, you have to work 6 hours in the pool. I'm training for tri's and can manage an hour AT BEST! Haha!
MocMocaMoc said:
Tim Ferris (love or hate him) put an interesting theory forwards for this; that water saps heat from your body quicker than air. The heat exchange caused him to burn all those calories. I think it was a NASA scientist who worked it out.
But then, you have to work 6 hours in the pool. I'm training for tri's and can manage an hour AT BEST! Haha!
I heard that it's because you're constantly surround by cold water. That's the principle of having a morning ice bath to lose weight.But then, you have to work 6 hours in the pool. I'm training for tri's and can manage an hour AT BEST! Haha!
If you were only managing one hour at best then perhaps you need to eat more.
When I climb, because I'm there all afternoon (climbing is essentially doing st loads of pull ups and assisted pull ups in sets for hours) and eat whatever the hell I want!My advice would be:
Find a cardio activity you enjoy. Could be mountain biking, could be hill walking, could be lying in ice baths, could be climbing all the high peaks in the country.
Do it to excess. If you chose swimming you might set a 5 year goal of swimming a mile in under x minutes. You could then set intermediate goals of increasing distances and shortening times to define the process of getting there. It should be something that you're pissed off that you can't do well because of your weight in order to motivate you.
Make a commitment to achieve some kind of milestone in that activity. Make it the focus of your life. Train yourself so you achieve it. Then set the next challenge.
If you are unable to do this then you don't really want to lose weight.
Find a cardio activity you enjoy. Could be mountain biking, could be hill walking, could be lying in ice baths, could be climbing all the high peaks in the country.
Do it to excess. If you chose swimming you might set a 5 year goal of swimming a mile in under x minutes. You could then set intermediate goals of increasing distances and shortening times to define the process of getting there. It should be something that you're pissed off that you can't do well because of your weight in order to motivate you.
Make a commitment to achieve some kind of milestone in that activity. Make it the focus of your life. Train yourself so you achieve it. Then set the next challenge.
If you are unable to do this then you don't really want to lose weight.
Thinking along a different line, How much sleep are you getting each night?
I find that after a few late nights I keep snacking and eat anything in sight to get that extra energy boost, topped up with coffee which doesn't help with the next nights sleep. Tiredness also kills your motivation to do anything energetic.
I find that after a few late nights I keep snacking and eat anything in sight to get that extra energy boost, topped up with coffee which doesn't help with the next nights sleep. Tiredness also kills your motivation to do anything energetic.
My graph was pretty much like that, except I got to 61 and was 23.5 stone at 6ft 2.
Then I ended up in hospital for something entirely unrelated to my weight. But when they decided I had to have a special mattress, and I then had difficulty turning over because it was so soft and bouncy i thought to myself how bloody ridiculous it all was and how daft I was to have let myself get to that state. After 6 weeks in hospital thinking about it all, I was amazed that despite all the biscuits and cake I had consumed while there (I never normally eat such things) I had lost a stone. I guess it was really down to no alcohol for 6 weeks.
Anyway. I thought that was as good a start as I was ever going to get and I promptly joined Weight Watchers. I have never regretted it. 20 months later I am down to just over 15.5 stone, so that's 8 stone off where I started. I now walk 30-40 miles per week whereas before I could hardly manage 800 yard to and from the local supermarket. It's not always been easy, but at the same time it has not been as hard as I thought it might be. It has involved a lot sacrifice and a lot of will power, but then as with all things in life it all depends on how much you REALLY want to do it.
The one thing I have learned is that is much easier if you share your journey. For me my Weight Watchers weekly meeting has been my saviour, sharing my successes and failures with other on the same track - even if 99% of them are women. Trouble with us blokes is we think we can do it all by ourselves. believe you me - that makes it so much harder. I still have just under 2 stone to go and to a certain extent the more you lose the harder it becomes - but I WILL get there eventually, with my extended team of Weight Watchers helpers and other weight losers to encourage me. It doesn't have to be Weight Watchers, but you do need a support team of some sort. Like you I tried to do it by myself for nearly 20 years without succeeding before understanding what DOES work. There is definitely NO easy way. Once you have REALLY decided to do it get every bit of help and support you can - you'll need it because we are all basically weak.
Try it -and good luck
Then I ended up in hospital for something entirely unrelated to my weight. But when they decided I had to have a special mattress, and I then had difficulty turning over because it was so soft and bouncy i thought to myself how bloody ridiculous it all was and how daft I was to have let myself get to that state. After 6 weeks in hospital thinking about it all, I was amazed that despite all the biscuits and cake I had consumed while there (I never normally eat such things) I had lost a stone. I guess it was really down to no alcohol for 6 weeks.
Anyway. I thought that was as good a start as I was ever going to get and I promptly joined Weight Watchers. I have never regretted it. 20 months later I am down to just over 15.5 stone, so that's 8 stone off where I started. I now walk 30-40 miles per week whereas before I could hardly manage 800 yard to and from the local supermarket. It's not always been easy, but at the same time it has not been as hard as I thought it might be. It has involved a lot sacrifice and a lot of will power, but then as with all things in life it all depends on how much you REALLY want to do it.
The one thing I have learned is that is much easier if you share your journey. For me my Weight Watchers weekly meeting has been my saviour, sharing my successes and failures with other on the same track - even if 99% of them are women. Trouble with us blokes is we think we can do it all by ourselves. believe you me - that makes it so much harder. I still have just under 2 stone to go and to a certain extent the more you lose the harder it becomes - but I WILL get there eventually, with my extended team of Weight Watchers helpers and other weight losers to encourage me. It doesn't have to be Weight Watchers, but you do need a support team of some sort. Like you I tried to do it by myself for nearly 20 years without succeeding before understanding what DOES work. There is definitely NO easy way. Once you have REALLY decided to do it get every bit of help and support you can - you'll need it because we are all basically weak.
Try it -and good luck
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