If you are on suchastreet you'll get loads of 'em!
If you are on suchastreet you'll get loads of 'em!
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Streetcop

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5,907 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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I was working at a town fair/fete on Sunday and spent a couple of hours with the Safety Camera Partnership team.

The equipment was on view for people to look at and other such interesting things...

I was surprised to see the number of people who visited the stand with warm wishes and tips/advice on where we would find 'lots of speeders'.

Times, places, even name and addresses of speeders were volunteered by visitors to the stand...

There seems to be lots of support for the SCP, it would seem...

Street

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targarama

14,717 posts

306 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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And these people were probably speeding on the way home ... but NIMBY ...

Put a hidden scamera on their commute route and they'll soon be unhappy.

All IMO.

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Aye..
There is a lot of NOT IN MY BACK YARD, when it comes to traffic offences. You're absolutely right...

I ticketed a woman yesterday for driving along a bus lane, undertaking about 30 other vehicles that were in a queue. All she could bleat about was that I wasn't doing speeders or red light jumpers

It cost her £30, by the way.

Street

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
.... town fair/fete.....


And how many of these people actually drive competently, or at all....?

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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mybrainhurts said:

Streetcop said:
.... town fair/fete.....



And how many of these people actually drive competently, or at all....?




There were all sorts of people, young and old, trendy and those like me...it wasn't like a 'Last of the Summer Wine' place...

Street

Graham

16,378 posts

307 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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that reminds me of my mates street. all the people that lived there got together and campaigned for the police to setup a speed trap to combat the speeders comming up and down the street.

who did they catch....


5 of the people that live on the street ( out of about 30 houses)


including the lead campaigner

how stupid are these people...

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Graham said:
that reminds me of my mates street. all the people that lived there got together and campaigned for the police to setup a speed trap to combat the speeders comming up and down the street.

who did they catch....


5 of the people that live on the street ( out of about 30 houses)


including the lead campaigner

how stupid are these people...




Yep, that's been repeated many times...Thanks for that...

Street

joospeed

4,473 posts

301 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
Aye..
There is a lot of NOT IN MY BACK YARD, when it comes to traffic offences. You're absolutely right...

I ticketed a woman yesterday for driving along a bus lane, undertaking about 30 other vehicles that were in a queue. All she could bleat about was that I wasn't doing speeders or red light jumpers

It cost her £30, by the way.

Street



presumably this was during the hours the bus lane was in operation, otherwise she wasn't actually doing anything wrong ..
* highwy code.. can undertke if traffic queue on right is travelling slower* or some such wording.
Also making good use of both lanes to limit the overall length of any queue is intelligent driving.
Edited to add, as said by some guy in the IAM magazine .

>> Edited by joospeed on Thursday 16th September 07:49

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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joospeed said:

Streetcop said:
Aye..
There is a lot of NOT IN MY BACK YARD, when it comes to traffic offences. You're absolutely right...

I ticketed a woman yesterday for driving along a bus lane, undertaking about 30 other vehicles that were in a queue. All she could bleat about was that I wasn't doing speeders or red light jumpers

It cost her £30, by the way.

Street




presumably this was during the hours the bus lane was in operation, otherwise she wasn't actually doing anything wrong ..
* highwy code.. can undertke if traffic queue on right is travelling slower* or some such wording.
Also making good use of both lanes to limit the overall length of any queue is intelligent driving.
Edited to add, as said by some guy in the IAM magazine .

>> Edited by joospeed on Thursday 16th September 07:49


The bus lane in question is a 24hr bus lane and the time was rush hour. Everybody else, most of whom were probably in a rush too, were obeying the rules and queueing properly.

Street

Mad Moggie

618 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
I was working at a town fair/fete on Sunday and spent a couple of hours with the Safety Camera Partnership team.

The equipment was on view for people to look at and other such interesting things...


Bet they only displayed what they wanted folks to see And banged on about how accurate they are....

Wonder what entries they put in the accounts as well

Nice place to place "promoting and advertising road safety" costs...

Streetcop said:

I was surprised to see the number of people who visited the stand with warm wishes and tips/advice on where we would find 'lots of speeders'.

Times, places, even name and addresses of speeders were volunteered by visitors to the stand...


Grassing? sounds very "stasi" to me..

How do they know these people were "speeding". Lot of people do this out of some personal grudge.

Could be that these people were neighbours they had had a tiff with...

They may have a nice car and they may just be envious.

They may think anything driving above 10mph past their own house is "speeding" yet they drive without due care themselves. Woman who told me in our local pub that she thought Steve was "doing a good job and that she supported his speed traps " was on my school run yesterday. (We are now taking the kids to school as they upped the price of school bus to near extortion )

This woman was driving her car along a 30mph limit well above the legal limit. I was driving dead on 30mph - so I know this. When I caught her up at school gates - I could not resist crossing my fingers for a slight fibble and winding her up about the hidden speed trap. (There wasn't one - but I did take a perverse pleasure in watching her face go pale under the make-up!)

My Pa-In Law on his recent visit to me borrowed my Stag (he is insured to drive it). Anyway on one of his little jaunts in my ultimate pride and joy drew the comment "that at his age he should know better" when parking up the ultimate in sassy sports cars in a local car park. The assumption being that he drove this car very fast. He has done so in the past - but not on a public road




Streetcop said:

There seems to be lots of support for the SCP, it would seem...

Street

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The stand probably attracted the muesli munchers Normal people may have been tempted to use their angel grinders even at the fair

Bet they would have drawn a lot of flak from Lancashire lads and lasses....

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

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Thursday 16th September 2004
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Trouble is; there are too many incidents were people complain to the police about speeding cars past their houses;

"What will it take before you, the police, will do anything about speeders on sucharoad. Does someone need to die first?"

"A copy of this letter will be sent to the newspapers once someone dies, so that everyone knows you lot weren't interested. I pay my taxes you know.."

Street

Richard C

1,685 posts

280 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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street said:
"What will it take before you, the police, will do anything about speeders on sucharoad. Does someone need to die first?"

"A copy of this letter will be sent to the newspapers once someone dies, so that everyone knows you lot weren't interested. I pay my taxes you know.."


just re-inforces my comment elsewhere that majority of public are incapable of rational ( joined-up ) thinking and the kneejerk reaction and soundbite are their main expression

supraman2954

3,241 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
Trouble is; there are too many incidents were people complain to the police about speeding cars past their houses...........


...........Which is why we see so many scameras on A roads and motorways, where it is safe to speed. I am yet to see a speed trap (of any sort) near a school or high street. I've seen one in an urban area, but the road is very wide and straight and has pedestrian crossings.

Morning Street

Streetcop

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5,907 posts

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Thursday 16th September 2004
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supraman2954 said:

Streetcop said:
Trouble is; there are too many incidents were people complain to the police about speeding cars past their houses...........



...........Which is why we see so many scameras on A roads and motorways, where it is safe to speed. I am yet to see a speed trap (of any sort) near a school or high street. I've seen one in an urban area, but the road is very wide and straight and has pedestrian crossings.

Morning Street


Morning Supraman...hope you're well..

Strange you should mention it,but I'm spending a couple of hours with a camera crew this morning on a road near a school. They have been in situ since 7.30am, to take into account the start of school.

Street

The Wiz

5,875 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Streetcop said:
I was working at a town fair/fete on Sunday and spent a couple of hours with the Safety Camera Partnership team.

The equipment was on view for people to look at and other such interesting things...

I was surprised to see the number of people who visited the stand with warm wishes and tips/advice on where we would find 'lots of speeders'.

Times, places, even name and addresses of speeders were volunteered by visitors to the stand...

There seems to be lots of support for the SCP, it would seem...

Street

>>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 15th September 19:59


Maybe support where you are ... last time the Dorset Scamera team were at an event I attended they got lots of people coming up to them and having a go about them simply being robbing thieving lying etc etc gits.

softwaresorcerer

437 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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Streetcop said:

mybrainhurts said:


Streetcop said:
.... town fair/fete.....




And how many of these people actually drive competently, or at all....?





There were all sorts of people, young and old, trendy and those like me...it wasn't like a 'Last of the Summer Wine' place...

Street


Oi!!

Some of us live in 'Summer Wine', and there are a fair few non-Micra drivers around. SimonSpider's new Murci c/w Tubi lives here... Surely that's enough on its own?


Streetcop

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Thursday 16th September 2004
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softwaresorcerer said:

Oi!!

Some of us live in 'Summer Wine', and there are a fair few non-Micra drivers around. SimonSpider's new Murci c/w Tubi lives here... Surely that's enough on its own?



Lovely place....

I used to go out with a girl from Meltham...(more happy memories)

Street

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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I'm with Street on this one, but it's not just the speed enforcement that causes NIMBYism in my experience.

You can pretty much be dealing with anything these days, and before long some third party will come up and ask why we aren't doing something about drug dealers/dog fouling/burglaries/kids at the end of the street/muggings/parking on double yellows etc etc (lumped together for convenience, not because they're the same kind of thing...)

Trouble is, in reality there are so few uniformed traffic and panda) officers actually out and about answering the radio, that there's very little time to be proactive, or do anything other than ruch from job to job.

But to get back on thread, I had someone complaining about the fact I had just caught his wife's car (48 or so in a 30, outside a primary school (my own favourite site) at 3.30pm), when he had people speeding past his house (in a cul de sac...).

Streetcop

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Thursday 16th September 2004
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mondeoman

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289 months

Thursday 16th September 2004
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I get shed loads of speeders past my house - its a 30 limit, but the road itself is well laid out and capable of accepting 40-50 without fear of injury. Its lined with houses and schools, so at certain times of the day, the 30 limit is proper and correct, and at those times, the speed does come right down, even for single cars (not the rush hour convoy).

Speed Camera up there - NOT ON YOUR LIFE! I wouldn't want one and its not necessary.