Checking the oil (video)
Checking the oil (video)
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Lunablack

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3,494 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Whilst I'm on a bit of a roll, thought I'd show how to check the oil...smile

I suspect that the majority of owners do this on a regular basiswhistle And that being the case this is aimed at those who are new to V8V ownership and may be a little unsure of the proceduresmile

http://youtu.be/YVxMA3DT1n8

Jockman

18,414 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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FFS Andy....have you swallowed Maverick or something?? smile

Lunablack

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3,494 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Jockman said:
FFS Andy....have you swallowed Maverick or something?? smile
I'm here to help fellow V8 owners..smile..... I don't much care what the cruise liner owners get up tohehe

Ikebaddog

318 posts

164 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Lunablack said:
Jockman said:
FFS Andy....have you swallowed Maverick or something?? smile
I'm here to help fellow V8 owners..smile..... I don't much care what the cruise liner owners get up tohehe
Nice one Andy.....many thanks, just one question though, the manual says check the level with a cold engine, what difference ( in real terms) will there be if checked with a warm engine???

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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I enjoyed your film Lunablack.

Two points.
1. Our engines do sound 'tappety'.

2. You said, on the initial dip, "If no oil ... need to top-up."
When new to ownership, I was caught out by this. If the car is left for a while, possibly two or three weeks, the oil drains down from the (what is it called) where the dip stick is. Therefore, topping up under those circumstances will over fill.

I think under such circumstances, perhaps it is wise to do the oil check before a car is left for any lengthy period. Then you can do the throttle down start and be sure the oil level is OK.

I am not an engineer, so correct me if necessary.

Lunablack

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191 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Ikebaddog said:
Nice one Andy.....many thanks, just one question though, the manual says check the level with a cold engine, what difference ( in real terms) will there be if checked with a warm engine???
I'm not really sure, as I've never checked it with a warm engine.... After a run say...

I've only ever followed the instructions from the manual..

No matter how long I've left the car, I've always had oil on the dipstick when checking from cold, but it does vary a little on the amount.... Sometimes it's near the bottom, sometimes its half way.....today it was 3/4 up, but I suspect that's because I went for a run yesterday....

What doesn't vary though, is the level when checked after running for 20 seconds.... My car doesn't seem to use a drop, so it always shows at the top mark on the dipstick...

gibbon

2,182 posts

236 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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The viscosity of the oil will be different, and the oil obviously wont have drained down into the sump etc, most dipstick type check systems are designed to be checked with cold thick oil, that has had enough time to settle after use.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,658 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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He said to add oil so that it registers on the stick, not to top it off....big difference.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,658 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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One more thing...

Most people don't realize that checking a dry sump system (like the v8v) is very different from checking a normal wet sump system like the v12. People are conditioned to always wait to check the oil so that it has had time to drain back into the sump, so checking it after an overnight is perfect. Not so with a dry sump because the longer you wait, the more oil from the tank drains into the engine sump, giving a false reading (too low).

That is the reason the engine must be started and then stopped and then waiting a specified amount of time before making the check, so that the sump can be scavenged and the oil returned to the tank. There are so many stories of owners of dry sump cars overfilling the oil because of using a wet sump oil checking technique for a dry sump system. In fact many garages make the same mistake (ask Corvette Z06 owners...)

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

239 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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It sounded like one of those adverts for Halfords hehe next week how to change a light bulb biggrin

Lunablack

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3,494 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Jon39 said:
I enjoyed your film Lunablack..

2. You said, on the initial dip, "If no oil ... need to top-up."
Thanks Jon..... But NO, don't top up, just add enough so that it shows on the dipstick...

Don't forget, these engines take around 10 litres, so in theory, unless there is a major problem, I'd be surprised if the level got so low it'd cause damage...

By the way, the amount of oil required to take the level from the bottom mark to the top one is 2 litres..


Talking of dipsticks, anyone seen George ?? hehe

Jockman

18,414 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
One more thing...

Most people don't realize that checking a dry sump system (like the v8v) is very different from checking a normal wet sump system like the v12. People are conditioned to always wait to check the oil so that it has had time to drain back into the sump, so checking it after an overnight is perfect. Not so with a dry sump because the longer you wait, the more oil from the tank drains into the engine sump, giving a false reading (too low).

That is the reason the engine must be started and then stopped and then waiting a specified amount of time before making the check, so that the sump can be scavenged and the oil returned to the tank. There are so many stories of owners of dry sump cars overfilling the oil because of using a wet sump oil checking technique for a dry sump system. In fact many garages make the same mistake (ask Corvette Z06 owners...)
Indeed.....

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...frown

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Lunablack said:
Thanks Jon..... But NO, don't top up, just add enough so that it shows on the dipstick...
That is exactly what I attempted to do (following several weeks of not starting the engine). After adding more than a litre, there was still no oil showing on the dipstick. At that point, I turned over the engine (using the throttle down procedure), and then started it.

With hindsight, because originally the oil must have been at the correct level, it now contained a litre too much oil. I then had to syphon out a litre.
It presumably shows, that a considerable quantity of oil, must gradually drain down from the cylindrical tank.

As these cars are sometimes left for periods, I suppose this 'draining characteristic' might sometimes catch out other new owners.

Is that point worth mentioning in your next film release?
I don't think the handbook makes this clear.



Edited by Jon39 on Sunday 3rd February 22:08

mikey k

13,074 posts

245 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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nice work Luna
I have done mine when cold and after a run, it makes no real difference on a dry sump system (other than burning your hand frown )
So long as you follow the procedure and top up to with in the lines

George29

14,714 posts

193 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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V8 Animal said:
It sounded like one of those adverts for Halfords hehe next week how to change a light bulb biggrin
I thought that too hehe

I will now think of Lunablack as this guy:


V8 Animal

6,015 posts

239 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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AKA Brian laugh