What fast one is the dealer trying to pull here?
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A distinctly non-car-guy colleauge has just bought a new car, literally delivered Monday with 15 miles on the clock having reportedly come off the boat last week. Its a 62 plate.
Looking at it for the first time today, I notice the Road Fund Licence expires end of October.... odd I thought, as the car is brand new and it cost a whopping £460, even odder as the car in question is no luxo-barge.
So checking on line with DVLA, it turns out the registration the car wears is recorded with date of registration 30/11/2012 and the tax recorded as £250 for 12m (CO2 emissions 189g/Km).... so something isn't adding up.
Why would the supplying dealer put a tax disc on the car marked as costing £460 for 12m when it only needs £250 and why would it be recorded as being registered in November when it has allegedly only just arrived in the country? What fast one are they trying to pull?
Looking at it for the first time today, I notice the Road Fund Licence expires end of October.... odd I thought, as the car is brand new and it cost a whopping £460, even odder as the car in question is no luxo-barge.
So checking on line with DVLA, it turns out the registration the car wears is recorded with date of registration 30/11/2012 and the tax recorded as £250 for 12m (CO2 emissions 189g/Km).... so something isn't adding up.
Why would the supplying dealer put a tax disc on the car marked as costing £460 for 12m when it only needs £250 and why would it be recorded as being registered in November when it has allegedly only just arrived in the country? What fast one are they trying to pull?
Targets to be met ?
And showroom tax (1st year VED punishment for daring to buy a new car) http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/road-tax-rates-201...
And showroom tax (1st year VED punishment for daring to buy a new car) http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/road-tax-rates-201...
Cost of first year road tax is generally different to subsequent years... Hence the difference between the disc it has at the moment and the figure you are finding online.
I think the only thing the dealer is guilty of is lieing about the car just coming off the boat. they probably registered the car as part of a pre-reg exercise at the end of 2012. The car is a new car but with the dealer being the first owner and your mate being the second...
I would guess there is nothing to worry about.
I think the only thing the dealer is guilty of is lieing about the car just coming off the boat. they probably registered the car as part of a pre-reg exercise at the end of 2012. The car is a new car but with the dealer being the first owner and your mate being the second...
I would guess there is nothing to worry about.
larrylamb11 said:
A distinctly non-car-guy colleauge has just bought a new car, literally delivered Monday with 15 miles on the clock having reportedly come off the boat last week. Its a 62 plate.
Looking at it for the first time today, I notice the Road Fund Licence expires end of October.... odd I thought, as the car is brand new and it cost a whopping £460, even odder as the car in question is no luxo-barge.
So checking on line with DVLA, it turns out the registration the car wears is recorded with date of registration 30/11/2012 and the tax recorded as £250 for 12m (CO2 emissions 189g/Km).... so something isn't adding up.
Why would the supplying dealer put a tax disc on the car marked as costing £460 for 12m when it only needs £250 and why would it be recorded as being registered in November when it has allegedly only just arrived in the country? What fast one are they trying to pull?
On old Top Gear and again on Fifth Gear they used to run articles on buying new cars. You know check you are happy before taking delivery of it and normal common sense things like that.Looking at it for the first time today, I notice the Road Fund Licence expires end of October.... odd I thought, as the car is brand new and it cost a whopping £460, even odder as the car in question is no luxo-barge.
So checking on line with DVLA, it turns out the registration the car wears is recorded with date of registration 30/11/2012 and the tax recorded as £250 for 12m (CO2 emissions 189g/Km).... so something isn't adding up.
Why would the supplying dealer put a tax disc on the car marked as costing £460 for 12m when it only needs £250 and why would it be recorded as being registered in November when it has allegedly only just arrived in the country? What fast one are they trying to pull?
As for this exact circumstances, if it's a main dealer then I doubt it's anything too fishy and more likely someones expectations not tallying up with reality, or misunderstanding what was going on. If they are concerned they should speak to the dealership and find out what's going on. There's a chance they might lie, but lets face it, if it was fraudulent then there would be significant risk and would a single sale be worth that risk? Probably not.
But as the telly used to go "it's good to talk"
PS - post back what the dealer says. It maybe there is more going on here than meets the ear.
If I recall correctly from my car sales days, you can tax a car as soon as you have a VIN number.
So therefore you can tax a car before it is even built, let alone out of the factory, into a compound, delivered to the UK, into another compound and ultimately then delivered to the supplying dealer.
So it is possible for it to have been taxed a while a go (to hit a registration bonus) but only just delivered.
So therefore you can tax a car before it is even built, let alone out of the factory, into a compound, delivered to the UK, into another compound and ultimately then delivered to the supplying dealer.
So it is possible for it to have been taxed a while a go (to hit a registration bonus) but only just delivered.
Ari said:
If I recall correctly from my car sales days, you can tax a car as soon as you have a VIN number.
So therefore you can tax a car before it is even built, let alone out of the factory, into a compound, delivered to the UK, into another compound and ultimately then delivered to the supplying dealer.
So it is possible for it to have been taxed a while a go (to hit a registration bonus) but only just delivered.
Aye, this is true. There would be many-a-time when I'd sell a new Citroen, once the car is built and consigned we'd register it, a few weeks, later I'd get a call from the customer; 'The registration document has arrived for my new car, where is it?'. 'In France, awaiting dispatch', would be my reply.So therefore you can tax a car before it is even built, let alone out of the factory, into a compound, delivered to the UK, into another compound and ultimately then delivered to the supplying dealer.
So it is possible for it to have been taxed a while a go (to hit a registration bonus) but only just delivered.
The dealer has done your pal a favour selling him a pre-reg, not least buy saving him 20% in VAT alone.
Interesting replies, thank you.
The net result appears to be that the car is a pre-reg, registered in November. It has subsequently been 'sold' and delivered to my colleague who now doesn't seem to be concerned about when it was registered, how much tax it has or any other detail - its a car which starts when you push the button and hasn't done any miles, which is all he really cares about.... I did say he was a non-car-guy! It is entirely possible all the relevant details were explained to him in the buying process and it simply went over his head!
In conclusion, it is more likely that my colleague has simply overlooked some pertinent detail when negotiating for said car rather than the dealer playing underhand, either way, my colleague is happy enough and I guess that is what counts in a new car purchase!
The net result appears to be that the car is a pre-reg, registered in November. It has subsequently been 'sold' and delivered to my colleague who now doesn't seem to be concerned about when it was registered, how much tax it has or any other detail - its a car which starts when you push the button and hasn't done any miles, which is all he really cares about.... I did say he was a non-car-guy! It is entirely possible all the relevant details were explained to him in the buying process and it simply went over his head!
In conclusion, it is more likely that my colleague has simply overlooked some pertinent detail when negotiating for said car rather than the dealer playing underhand, either way, my colleague is happy enough and I guess that is what counts in a new car purchase!
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