Chip Tuning Boxes, bad idea?
Chip Tuning Boxes, bad idea?
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.R2D2

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

223 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Have seen these on eBay for various cars. The feedback on eBay seems to be positive and no issues reported. Worth a shot or stay clear? It's a lot cheaper than a remap

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Do you mean the "resistor" chip?

try googling that then decide for yourself wink

ETA: because I am feeling helpful: http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/The-Truth-About-Resistor...

.R2D2

Original Poster:

1,475 posts

223 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Caulkhead said:
+1!!!

Check out my above link, it was the first thing that came when i googled it

OP while you're at it get one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Cold-Air-Intake-Turb...

Should take you to about 250 BHP!

Edited by speed_monkey on Thursday 7th February 16:12

Essel

593 posts

176 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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My couriers don't look like that! yum

If they did, I might order one.

HustleRussell

26,583 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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well-proven chip from a reputable company or, ideally, a rolling road re-map session with lambda.

DanielSan

20,041 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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.R2D2 said:
That tuning box is frankly laughable. You can get decent ones like the Superchips Bluefin boxes, but they're more like £300+. BHP isn't cheap.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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speed_monkey said:
Caulkhead said:
+1!!!

Check out my above link, it was the first thing that came when i googled it

OP while you're at it get one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Cold-Air-Intake-Turb...

Should take you to about 250 BHP!

Edited by speed_monkey on Thursday 7th February 16:12
300bhp if the OP folds down the rear seats and overinflates the tyres. . . . . . .


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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.R2D2 said:
On PH you'll get a lot of people shun tuning - period. So take any replies with a pinch of salt.

And you do need to be careful as there are a lot scammers and crap out there.

That said, depending on how this works, it may indeed not being doing anything hugely different to how some engines are remapped. But it will be a generic setting, so won't likely work well with other mods and while you hope it's on the safe side, it may not.

As they claim to programme the device for your car, I'd be tempted to contact them direct and get a feel for if they know what they are claiming too do. Their ebay ad does reek of bullst though.

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
.R2D2 said:
On PH you'll get a lot of people shun tuning - period. So take any replies with a pinch of salt.
Shunning tuning? No, not at all. i am a big fan of tuning.

But how many times does this kind of st do the rounds on here? Twinned with the "turbo supercharger induction kit" i posted earlier.

When will people realise that tuning (well) is not cheap.....

HustleRussell

26,583 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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.R2D2 Sorry but I think you need to get your head examined for even considering parting with £55 for that based on that eBay description...

littlened

144 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Tuning boxes in general are fine, just make sure you get a decent one.

On our last diesel astra we had a DTUK tuning box, took BHP from 150 to just under 200bhp, as the car was still under warranty it was great because we could quickly remove it.

It cost about £300 quid though, but you can get used ones on ebay for about £75, or at least that's what I sold mine for.

HustleRussell

26,583 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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littlened said:
took BHP from 150 to just under 200bhp
Do you have before/after rolling road graphs so we can look at the quality of the map?

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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HustleRussell said:
littlened said:
took BHP from 150 to just under 200bhp
Do you have before/after rolling road graphs so we can look at the quality of the map?
Or to see a confirmed 50BHP increase.....?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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speed_monkey said:
When will people realise that tuning (well) is not cheap.....
Well that's not strictly true.

Most mappers will start with a "base" custom map that they know works above and beyond the standard map. There are many variables which can be altered and it'd be pretty barmy to manually do this on each and every car. Do it once, save the file and then download it as a basis for a custom map.

However this base map will likely be an improvement over stock (and err on the side of safety). So to get an instant gain on the same type of car you have to do bugger all but upload it.

This means someone who isn't capable of mapping from scratch could also copy the map and simply provide it as an upgrade.

Sure some might be ste, but many may not be.

The one the op has cited I know nothing about, so it may well be utter garbage. But dismissing it based on false assumptions isn't really the entire story.

smile

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
As they claim to programme the device for your car, I'd be tempted to contact them direct and get a feel for if they know what they are claiming too do. Their ebay ad does reek of bullst though.
"After the purchase, please tell us the make, model of car, engine horse-power, our engineers will develop a program, EVOBOX specifically for the car model you choose."

For 54 quid? rofl

Not forgetting:

"Also compatible the vehicle electronics more advanced" and, "Predisposed to install an on / off switch or remote control" biggrin

speed_monkey

3,503 posts

219 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
speed_monkey said:
When will people realise that tuning (well) is not cheap.....
Well that's not strictly true.

Most mappers will start with a "base" custom map that they know works above and beyond the standard map. There are many variables which can be altered and it'd be pretty barmy to manually do this on each and every car. Do it once, save the file and then download it as a basis for a custom map.

However this base map will likely be an improvement over stock (and err on the side of safety). So to get an instant gain on the same type of car you have to do bugger all but upload it.

This means someone who isn't capable of mapping from scratch could also copy the map and simply provide it as an upgrade.

Sure some might be ste, but many may not be.

The one the op has cited I know nothing about, so it may well be utter garbage. But dismissing it based on false assumptions isn't really the entire story.

smile
I agree my 200SX was at stage 2 using a Horsham Developments "chip", but it wasn't cheap (granted the chip was £80.00) to get up to stage 2......

In my eyes cheap chips like this for standard cars are st, better off getting a map done to suit your needs than a chip that will overfuel and likely cause your engine to explode into a million pieces (slight exageration but you get my point).

750turbo

6,164 posts

254 months

Thursday 7th February 2013
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Caulkhead said:
300bhp/ton said:
As they claim to programme the device for your car, I'd be tempted to contact them direct and get a feel for if they know what they are claiming too do. Their ebay ad does reek of bullst though.
"After the purchase, please tell us the make, model of car, engine horse-power, our engineers will develop a program, EVOBOX specifically for the car model you choose."

For 54 quid? rofl

Not forgetting:

"Also compatible the vehicle electronics more advanced" and, "Predisposed to install an on / off switch or remote control" biggrin
Laugh of the day, and 300whatsisname knows it is tosh!

Have another... rofl