You Bend it You Mend it Part 2!!
You Bend it You Mend it Part 2!!
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Guvernator

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Monday 11th February 2013
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Not sure if anyone has seen this already but this is taken from a recent filming for Top Gear Korea and adds a new dimension to the ongoing you bend it you mend it discussion.

Top Gear Korea Crash

1. Firstly no one was injured thankfully but I'd be interested from some of the flying boffin's on PH, what they think the cause of the crash was?

2. In light of the prevalent gentlemen's agreement discussions on the other thread, I'd like to know how a TV program goes about arranging something like this. I assume it's a case of asking your local friendly military base nicely but more importantly, who foots the bill for the very expensive helicopter which I believe is worth somewhere in the region of $10m?

MX7

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204 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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I suspect that it might not be genuine.

Logie

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Monday 11th February 2013
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oops redface

DaveH23

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200 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Guvernator said:
1. Firstly no one was injured
yikes

How the fk did anybody walk away from that.

In answer to your question, I would imaagine that have insurance which covers such accidents.

Prof Prolapse

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220 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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It really does put the BBC Top Gears contrived, "oops we accidentally set fire to a caravan" to shame doesn't it?

Good old Koreans and their CGI.

J4CKO

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Monday 11th February 2013
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MX7 said:
I suspect that it might not be genuine.
Yep, it doesnt look quite right

bigandclever

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Monday 11th February 2013
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MX7

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Monday 11th February 2013
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bigandclever said:
He turns right in that one, left in the other. confused

Guvernator

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Monday 11th February 2013
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DaveH23 said:
In answer to your question, I would imaagine that have insurance which covers such accidents.
You'd like to think so but seeing what's come to light in the other thread I'm not so sure. I'm sure it's insured for normal use but I'm sure any insurer would think long and hard about paying out for a crash which occured during some crazy stunt for TV, who would insure against that?

As for those saying it's fake, what makes you think that? Not saying I know for definate but there are internal camera angles too I believe.

2902326

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Monday 11th February 2013
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That first footage does look like it's been fiddled around with, I take an interest in aviation and remember seeing a Crash like that a long time ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkhTtRo7ADw that's been online for just under a year so I don't know why it's just come out as news now.

Elements of the video I have provided seem to be included in the OP's link but it seems that they've gone a bit wild with their artistic licence?

ShredderXLE

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Monday 11th February 2013
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR-rUmDh6zM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaEnINpd_k8


Looks like Top Gear have a history of destroying Ah-1's - these clips look pretty convincing to me.

MX7

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Monday 11th February 2013
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Guvernator said:
As for those saying it's fake, what makes you think that? Not saying I know for definate but there are internal camera angles too I believe.
Mainly the music. If something like this did happen, would you release the video of the crash, or would you send off to be edited with the bits of the presenter driving the car, and then overlay the dramatic music?

It's Top Gear, so nothing should be taken 100% as fact.

TITWONK

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197 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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MX7 said:
He turns right in that one, left in the other. confused
Anyone else care to comment on this? I've looked at both and they do indeed seem to turn in opposite directions!

FisiP1

1,279 posts

183 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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The Cobra from the back looks the same as from the front, that's why it looks like it banks left in the first Video.

At first I had suspicions, but seems genuine enough with all of the other angles. Glad they were OK.

Prof Prolapse

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Monday 11th February 2013
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FisiP1 said:
At first I had suspicions, but seems genuine enough with all of the other angles. Glad they were OK.
Same.

Mr2Mike

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285 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Guvernator said:
, what they think the cause of the crash was?
I suspect "Pilot error" would cover that. Very low altitude, extremely tight banked turn with insufficient speed.

LocoCoco

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Monday 11th February 2013
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Guvernator

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Monday 11th February 2013
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The multiple and internal camera angles would seem to suggest it's genuine or it's a very elaborote hoax if it isn't.

It's easy to assume pilot error I guess but you'd think the pilot would be used to doing these sorts of maneovers. I guess it's only takes a split second mistake at that height though!

Still wonder who is ultimately liable? I know helicopters are insured in normal circumstances but would the insurance we willing to pay out on a total loss given the fact that they were in effect p*ssing about at unsafe altitude for a TV programme. Also wouldn't have liked to have been the pilot having to report that in to his commander "Err captain, I have some bad news" but I guess at least he got to walk away!

Bill

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Monday 11th February 2013
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Guvernator said:
Still wonder who is ultimately liable? I know helicopters are insured in normal circumstances but would the insurance we willing to pay out on a total loss given the fact that they were in effect p*ssing about at unsafe altitude for a TV programme. Also wouldn't have liked to have been the pilot having to report that in to his commander "Err captain, I have some bad news" but I guess at least he got to walk away!
The military would treat the whole thing as part training, part recruitment and would have to write it off as a training accident, I suspect. I'd be very surprised if military aircraft are insured as such.

Prof Prolapse

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Monday 11th February 2013
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Bill said:
I'd be very surprised if military aircraft are insured as such.
"I'd like a quote for an Invasion of Iraq please".