Hiring a person for 3 months? Tax N.I - Help :-)
Hiring a person for 3 months? Tax N.I - Help :-)
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AE82GT

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142 posts

204 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Hi PH Collective,

I run a small Ltd company and need to hire a trainer for a specific client project that will call for more resources than I have time currently. This is funded by the client for a period of 3 months with a view to it possibly becoming a more permanent arrangement / addition to the services I offer them if they are happy with the results.

Whats the best, above board way of engaging this person for a short period? - Just put them on the books, make it clear that it is a 3 month contract and thats that? Run the payroll, pay the NI, job done ...?

Advice much appreciated.


AE.


Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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The PAYE system certainly can cope with short term engagements. If the person is being hired as an employee, even a temporary one, then this is the correct path to take.

z4chris99

12,515 posts

208 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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hire as freelancer?

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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Only if the person really is a freelancer.

The individual has to be truly "self employed" (i.e. operating in the manner of a sole trader business) for this to work.

HMRC will tell you that this is not a matter of choice - but a matter of fact.

z4chris99

12,515 posts

208 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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you can tell them to register as self employed

if they really want the job the will. And it's less headache for you.

happens alot in film, design, architecture, fashion etc

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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z4chris99 said:
you can tell them to register as self employed

if they really want the job the will. And it's less headache for you.

happens alot in film, design, architecture, fashion etc
Absolutely not.

A prospective "employer" cannot force somebody they are hiring to be "self employed".

Read up on the rules and regulations governing "employment/self-employment" status.

Of course, in the real world, may "employers" try this on - but that does not mean they are correct.

z4chris99

12,515 posts

208 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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I'm not saying it's legal. but it's what in real life they do

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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z4chris99 said:
I'm not saying it's legal. but it's what in real life they do
Nothing to do with legality or illegality.

It's to do with the nature of the engagement, what types of taxes and NI are due and which entity has primary responsibility for paying over those taxes.

If HMRC decides that the wrong approach has been taken, they won't be raising criminal prosecutions, but they will ask that the correct tax and NI be paid - and if the amounts are large, the "employer" could find themselves in big trouble.

Look at what is happening with Rangers FC.