Noisey picture on canvas question
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I have run this picture through Elements 7 noise reduction, and its still pretty noisy. The aim is to get this onto enlarged canvas, but how big do you think it would go before looking rubbish?
kids lr by ian.dally, on Flickr
Elements is all I have, but is there any recommended free software out there that could maybe enhance it any more?
kids lr by ian.dally, on Flickr
Elements is all I have, but is there any recommended free software out there that could maybe enhance it any more?
That's a tough one! That's a very noisy photo. It is disappointing when a photo you takes isn't up to standard and often it's redeemable to an extent but this is less so.
I have a few programs to reduce noise and a few very effective techniques. I'm not saying my ways are the best - there are better ways I'm sure of that, but I can't really bring it up to standard. I've tried layer masks in Photoshop to retain detail but some has been lost and it would take hours and hours or more to overcome that I would think.
Secondly, when you print to canvas it is often a fair bit darker (or duller looking) than on screen and your image is already quite dark. My re-edit quite possibly STILL isn't bright enough but you will be able to get better advice for printing to canvas from other PHers than me.
Anyway, if you want the full size file, PM me your email.
I have a few programs to reduce noise and a few very effective techniques. I'm not saying my ways are the best - there are better ways I'm sure of that, but I can't really bring it up to standard. I've tried layer masks in Photoshop to retain detail but some has been lost and it would take hours and hours or more to overcome that I would think.
Secondly, when you print to canvas it is often a fair bit darker (or duller looking) than on screen and your image is already quite dark. My re-edit quite possibly STILL isn't bright enough but you will be able to get better advice for printing to canvas from other PHers than me.
Anyway, if you want the full size file, PM me your email.
You could try editing it in PS to look like a painting? We've got a large canvas on the wall of a photo taken of family walking in a park and I tweaked it to look like a dabbed oil painting but with a fair bit of detail. I like it and it gets plenty of positive comments from visitors. A different look, but you might like it and it could overcome the noise issue and perhaps let you push the brightness up a bit?
8471078039_a7c880a82e_o.jpg on Flickr
Here's a version. Let me know if it's any better and I'll remove it from my Flickr. And if you PM me I'll send the full-size one to you, Flickr seems to not allow that.
I think I'm flogging a dead horse. Thanks for the efforts to fix for me though.
Simpo - sadly not an option, unless we go back to Centreparcs - or I could try climbing the fence
It was late Nov, and sun was just dipping, so was pretty dark, hence the noise, not entirely the cameras fault.
Simpo - sadly not an option, unless we go back to Centreparcs - or I could try climbing the fence
It was late Nov, and sun was just dipping, so was pretty dark, hence the noise, not entirely the cameras fault.Can't really help with the grain as any noise you remove will ultimately remove detail. Lightroom has some good noise reduction filters that can produce pleasant results but as said, you will lose fine detail.
As for canvas prints being dull or dark. Bulls
t. Use a canvas printer that uses a quality 12 colour machine with quality canvas and there is no reason you won't get as good or better results compared to a print. You might get darker results but that would be due to your monitor settings compared to the monitor of the printers. Your monitor may be too bright. Dull colours are not due to the canvas media. That's just down to poor printing (or over saturated monitor settings)...
See the link in my profile.
As for canvas prints being dull or dark. Bulls
t. Use a canvas printer that uses a quality 12 colour machine with quality canvas and there is no reason you won't get as good or better results compared to a print. You might get darker results but that would be due to your monitor settings compared to the monitor of the printers. Your monitor may be too bright. Dull colours are not due to the canvas media. That's just down to poor printing (or over saturated monitor settings)...See the link in my profile.
MysteryLemon said:
As for canvas prints being dull or dark. Bullst. Use a canvas printer that uses a quality 12 colour machine with quality canvas and there is no reason you won't get as good or better results compared to a print. You might get darker results but that would be due to your monitor settings compared to the monitor of the printers. Your monitor may be too bright. Dull colours are not due to the canvas media. That's just down to poor printing (or over saturated monitor settings)...
See the link in my profile.
Read what I said again, nice and slowly:t. Use a canvas printer that uses a quality 12 colour machine with quality canvas and there is no reason you won't get as good or better results compared to a print. You might get darker results but that would be due to your monitor settings compared to the monitor of the printers. Your monitor may be too bright. Dull colours are not due to the canvas media. That's just down to poor printing (or over saturated monitor settings)...See the link in my profile.
"Secondly, when you print to canvas it is often a fair bit darker (or duller looking) than on screen and your image is already quite dark. My re-edit quite possibly STILL isn't bright enough but you will be able to get better advice for printing to canvas from other PHers than me."
Firstly I said "often"; as in I've used two different companies and have been less than satisfied with the results despite my monitor being calibrated correctly (using the equipment my friend's Dad uses for print and he is a _hugely_ successful sports photographer so he has to get it right). Secondly, the OP's original image is underexposed. Thirdly, poor printers is exactly what I'm referring to as the two companies I used are pretty popular and the OP might follow a similar Google path to me to get things printed to canvas. So it's not bulls
t at all, it's just common when the company you use isn't good enough and/or monitor calibration. It was a word of warning, not the damnation of canvas printing.It is though. I hear it all the time... Dark prints, dull prints, low quality prints etc... You get what you pay for. Pick a random company off google that's cheap and you can expect it to be printed on a cheap machine without the operator even looking at the image.
It isn't as easy as calibrating your screen to some settings and expecting it to be perfect for everything. You may have calibrated your monitor to whatever settings suggested to you but that won't necessarily be right for the printer whichever company you use is using. There are so many factors you don't know that it's impossible to calibrate your screen to a printer you know nothing about. Even the type of canvas used and even the paper type it's set on on the printer can produce totally different results from the same file.
It isn't as easy as calibrating your screen to some settings and expecting it to be perfect for everything. You may have calibrated your monitor to whatever settings suggested to you but that won't necessarily be right for the printer whichever company you use is using. There are so many factors you don't know that it's impossible to calibrate your screen to a printer you know nothing about. Even the type of canvas used and even the paper type it's set on on the printer can produce totally different results from the same file.
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