New York Times 'fake' Tesla report?
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Tesla certainly seem to have strong evidence to say they did.
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test...
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/most-peculiar-test...
You're entitled to your opinion, but it's hardly relevant to the topic. The topic is about journalistic standards, or lack of. Something which affects us all. We all take Top Gear with a pinch of salt, but for a 'serious' outlet to behave like this is very poor IMHO. And the evidence is pretty concrete from what you can see in the article.
It does look like Tesla has been treated unfairly by the NYT journalist in question, but the problem remains that the current generation of electic cars are expensive, heavy and have a very limited range indeed. The need for new and expensive super-charging stations and of course generating capacity doesn't help the business case. Their rebuttal smacks of 'yeah, but. no, but' excuses.
Energy storage technology or mobile generation of the same needs to make a giant leap forwards before such a vehicle becomes a real alternative. The Tesla business model is based on using subsidies in the interim period with an expection that the technological leap will come to replace lithium-ion. But will it?
Energy storage technology or mobile generation of the same needs to make a giant leap forwards before such a vehicle becomes a real alternative. The Tesla business model is based on using subsidies in the interim period with an expection that the technological leap will come to replace lithium-ion. But will it?
FarleyRusk said:
It does look like Tesla has been treated unfairly by the NYT journalist in question, but the problem remains that the current generation of electic cars are expensive, heavy and have a very limited range indeed. The need for new and expensive super-charging stations and of course generating capacity doesn't help the business case. Their rebuttal smacks of 'yeah, but. no, but' excuses.
Energy storage technology or mobile generation of the same needs to make a giant leap forwards before such a vehicle becomes a real alternative. The Tesla business model is based on using subsidies in the interim period with an expection that the technological leap will come to replace lithium-ion. But will it?
It's standard journalism, pick any award winning car and you find any number of articles rubbishing it. Energy storage technology or mobile generation of the same needs to make a giant leap forwards before such a vehicle becomes a real alternative. The Tesla business model is based on using subsidies in the interim period with an expection that the technological leap will come to replace lithium-ion. But will it?
Heavy? Yes, but only around 300 kilos more than similar sized Jag XF. (Which on a personal note, is the only 4 door car along with the Model S catches my eye when I see it on the road).
Charging points expensive? Yep if you are talking about the Super charging stations, although I have no idea the costs of building a petrol station, on the flip side you have at home over night charging.
I wouldn't call 200 miles 'limited range' to be fair, and I think the Model S can go further if you have extended range, its not really an argument nowadays unless you go looking for it like the NYT journalist...
Loan repaid 5 years early...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-08/tesla-pla...
Possible tech leap, but your guess is as good as mine on the viability...
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/david-manne...
Regardless of opinions and personal prejudices, not least the intense debate on this Forum, I guess the market has spoken. This should be one in the eye for the naysayers -
Not sure about Elon Musk being the new Steve Jobs though......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22459631
And if this really is the beginnings of a successful, long term company and maybe even a game changer, we can be proud that Lotus helped it on it's way.
Not sure about Elon Musk being the new Steve Jobs though......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22459631
And if this really is the beginnings of a successful, long term company and maybe even a game changer, we can be proud that Lotus helped it on it's way.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-08/tesla-pos...
Market capitalisation of more than Fiat ($8bn). Ridiculous!
Market capitalisation of more than Fiat ($8bn). Ridiculous!
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