The Red Rocket(ish) Civic VTI MB6
The Red Rocket(ish) Civic VTI MB6
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mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Hello fellow PH'ers, I have been a bit of a lurker over the years and feel the time has come to contribute a little more,
I won't bore you with too much about my car history but it consisted of:

Classic Mini which I crashed into a barn.
Classic Mini, had around 16 MOT failures + ALOT of rust.
205 GTI 1.6 amazing car, should never had sold.
200sx S14a which I had to sell due to starting a family (Lump in my throat as it drove away)
BMW E46 Touring, had quite a few problems and a bit of a wrongun overall.
Honda Civic Aerodeck 1.6 Vtec, very reliable family motor but written off (not at fault, no barns involved this time).

Only the last two were standard, the rest had a series of modifications, especially the 205 + 200sx.

So after loving the Honda reliability with a small hint of v-tec power (125bhp to be precise) I decided to stick with Honda but I still needed a boot and four doors.
So my old man kindly drove me from Kent to West London to look at a car with no service history and 130,000 miles, this was after viewing a very honest ebay sale. This car had been in the same family for many years, they own a small garage so all the work has been done in the family (apparently) with no receipts to prove ANY work. The owner does have his own MG Track car which is a little reassuring.

So I took a risk and after going over the car and feeling happy it was honest I paid £800 for this:




Pros: 170bhp (when new) engine which feels very strong
Hardly any rust
Very clean interior
Awesome brakes and handling in comparison to the Aerodeck

Cons: 4 odd tyres
Scuffs to front bumper
Engine bay is nasty!
Rear bumper with quite alot of damage
Boot carpet has a large cement stain
Alloys badly corroded
No PH sticker!
Some laquer peel on mirrors and door handles
2 small weird marks on roof, which someone has tried to repair (badly)
Rev counter doesn't work
Clutch very low and hard!

Quite a list, but I am treating this as a little project to slowly make improvements on as I go.

Just wanted to say thank you to PH and it's community, it has provided me with some good laughs and there are some truly inspiring projects on here, TrackCIT's 106 rallye being my all time favourite (no updates for a while though I think)

A few more pics:





Thanks, Mike

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

237 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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That's nice, is the engine a b16? Bargain for £800!

furrywoolyhatuk

682 posts

183 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Never new they put out 170, pretty impressive!

Honda reliability, what could go wrong smile

mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Thanks Rob, I believe the correct code is B18 as it is a 1.8

0a

24,133 posts

223 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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A lot of power for the civic looks!

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

237 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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mb148 said:
Thanks Rob, I believe the correct code is B18 as it is a 1.8
So it is, thought that was a six on the back smile

Layacable

820 posts

237 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Lurve a late ninetees Honda !

No oil, no water, no problem ! , ! , !

Great stuff for 800 notes.

rossub

5,929 posts

219 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Engine bay doesn't look remotely nasty to me. Good buy I'd say.

90s Petrol Hondas are fantastic sheds.

Megaflow

11,467 posts

254 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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£800!

Eight hundred quid!

I had one of them, what seems not so long ago, that I paid £7300 for when it was 2 1/2 years old. To be fair it wasn't perfect, totally reliable, but not as fun to drive as I'd hoped, for for less than a bag of sand that is top shedding.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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rossub said:
Engine bay doesn't look remotely nasty to me. Good buy I'd say.

90s Petrol Hondas are fantastic sheds.
Yup. Whip off the cam cover, a bit of sanding and some black paint and it'll look much better.

mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th February 2013
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Thanks for the good comments everyone, yesterday I ended up attacking the boot carpet with the hoover which now looks like this:



Not perfect but much better than before!

Car is also booked in for the rev counter to be fixed and an overall diagnosis to see if there is anything urgent needs fixing (probably suspension bushes + clutch)

Going out in it this morning to feed the ducks! ha ha

mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Alloy wheel refurb!
I was going to spend money having the wheels dipped and painted so they look like new, but with a new baby and the fact it would cost a 1/4 of what the car cost I can't really justify it.
So down to the local motor factors for some rattle can action and spent £47, I have learnt some vital lessons painting the first wheel so will hopefully improve on the next three.

I started with the worst wheel, giving it a good scrub with APC and a brush to remove brake dust and do some degreasing:



As you can see the corrosion is pretty bad, so I went to work with the dremel and sandpaper finishing off with some 360 grit wet and dry



I was definitely a little too agressive overall, lesson learnt.

Masked up (remembering the valve):



Primer on:



I then went over that with 360 wet and dry again.

Wheel cleaned again, then 2 x coats of Honda Blade silver and 2 x coats of clear lacquer



Overall very happy, the wheel has marks where I was a little too crazy with the Dremel in the heavy corrosion spots and there is a small area of overspray as well, but considering I did this over 5 days in the evenings when the kids are in bed I am more than happy.

I still have the next 3 to do but they are not in such a poor state as the above, please ignore the nasty tyres as they are on the to do list and the house (on going project) smile




Digby

8,351 posts

275 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Great fun these.We had one for a while.

Quick version of events..

My wife says to me her Sisters husbands Dad wants to sell "A blue civic" (they know I enjoy a snotter or three)

I ask how much and get told £100.I suggest it must be beyond help for £100 and I will leave it.

A short time passes and my wifes Sisters husband tells his Dad and us that it's worth way more than £100.

I then ask for some more details..

R reg 1.8 vtec Civic - 70ish k miles - lots of history - had £400 spent on it recently - gone a bit 'green' after being sat under a tree in their garden due to work van use - Price to us if still interested is £500.

I went to look, purchased it, cleaned it, made it look like a new car, ragged it around for just over a year and flogged it for £1200.


I know for a fact I would have never given them £100 for it as I felt bad enough paying £500, but they were perfectly happy with that.Seriously though, £100...why would anyone want less than scrap value for such a brilliant car?


Gilhooligan

2,221 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Digby said:
Great fun these.We had one for a while.

Quick version of events..

My wife says to me her Sisters husbands Dad wants to sell "A blue civic" (they know I enjoy a snotter or three)

I ask how much and get told £100.I suggest it must be beyond help for £100 and I will leave it.

A short time passes and my wifes Sisters husband tells his Dad and us that it's worth way more than £100.

I then ask for some more details..

R reg 1.8 vtec Civic - 70ish k miles - lots of history - had £400 spent on it recently - gone a bit 'green' after being sat under a tree in their garden due to work van use - Price to us if still interested is £500.

I went to look, purchased it, cleaned it, made it look like a new car, ragged it around for just over a year and flogged it for £1200.


I know for a fact I would have never given them £100 for it as I felt bad enough paying £500, but they were perfectly happy with that.Seriously though, £100...why would anyone want less than scrap value for such a brilliant car?
I did something similar. Bought a civic eg coupe with 250k on the clock and a lot of rust for £100. Drove it about for a couple of months then scrapped it for £170 after the steering rack and brakes bushes etc all failed. The engine, clutch and gearbox were all still spot on. Good old honda engineering.

mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Digby said:
Great fun these.We had one for a while.

Quick version of events..

My wife says to me her Sisters husbands Dad wants to sell "A blue civic" (they know I enjoy a snotter or three)

I ask how much and get told £100.I suggest it must be beyond help for £100 and I will leave it.

A short time passes and my wifes Sisters husband tells his Dad and us that it's worth way more than £100.

I then ask for some more details..

R reg 1.8 vtec Civic - 70ish k miles - lots of history - had £400 spent on it recently - gone a bit 'green' after being sat under a tree in their garden due to work van use - Price to us if still interested is £500.

I went to look, purchased it, cleaned it, made it look like a new car, ragged it around for just over a year and flogged it for £1200.


I know for a fact I would have never given them £100 for it as I felt bad enough paying £500, but they were perfectly happy with that.Seriously though, £100...why would anyone want less than scrap value for such a brilliant car?
You had a bargain! any pics?

The civic has developed a rattle now, the engine is still perfect so it may be a heatshield/exhaust problem. It is only noisy when it has warmed up and at a certain rpm. Investigation continues..

Digby

8,351 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th March 2013
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mb148 said:
You had a bargain! any pics?
Will have to dig them out.That's a quick shot of it from my profile/garage pics before it was cleaned properly.




mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Well its Mot time, currently waiting for a phone call to see if its passed,

Since the last update:

Ph sticker!

Cat back stainless exhaust system
AEM induction kit
All four tyres replaced with tracking done
Alpine head unit with ipod attachment
Oil and filter usings Fuchs oil
New pollen filter
Both rear brake calipers and pads replaced with full fluid change
New front window seals as the air was whistling through at speed
New aerial as my neighbours tree fell on the roof which snapped the aerial and scratched the roof.

The car has been very reliable and is now at 135,000 miles, it goes in for paint on Monday for a new rear bumper which needs painting and the spoiler is also being painted. The bumper was already damaged from the previous owner but I scratched it further after reversing into my own wall after a 16 hour night shift!

I will put a new pic up after the new bumper on Monday

MrMoonyMan

2,689 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Great engine in that and a good write up too, thanks.

How do you get on with the steering? I've had / sold / a few of those years ago and the steering always felt so 'wooly' in them...

mb148

Original Poster:

86 posts

241 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Steering is most definitely a weak point, it is slow and heavy! It has now passed its MOT with a couple of minor advisories for rust underneath which I knew about already so Im very happy.

All set for paint!

LiamM45

1,035 posts

209 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Brill car for £800! Few friends have had them and they go well for the money, and they seem bomb proof!