Recommend me a 5-door hot hatch / Panda 100HP alternative

[crankshaft]

Hot / warm hatch. 5 doors only. Smaller is better.

Budget: Sub 10k. Open to any suggestions - but must handle and steer properly - a lift-off oversteer tendency when pushed is a good thing!

If only there was such thing as a 5-door 205 GTI / GTI-6 / 106 GTI - but these are mostly old sheds now anyway - same goes for mk2 Golf GTI.

What beats the Fiat?

[danp]

bmw 130i.. admittedly not really in the panda class tho!

[SlowStig]

Mazda 3 MPS? I am looking at selling mine soon....

What about a 500 Abarth or a Punto Abarth?
Mini Cooper S?

[thiscocks]

What's the reason you don't want the fiat?

[Yiliterate]

Not an obvious choice, but have a look at a Mercedes A200 Turbo. Dynamically it's not in the same league as a Golf GTi, but it is reasonably brisk and the interior space is amazing given it is only a few inches longer than a Fiat Panda. The only thing is it's heavy on the petrol compared to something like the Panda...they're also pretty rare so you would have to hunt around.

[Bezza1969]

SlowStig said:

Mazda 3 MPS? I am looking at selling mine soon....

What about a 500 Abarth or a Punto Abarth?
Mini Cooper S?

He said five doors??!!

...what about a basic suzuki Swift? Mazda 3 1.5 - 5door...Skoda Fabia VRS, for a leftfield diesel alternative or a Seat Ibiza FR...either diesel (2.0TDI goes well), or the 1.4 TSI in its various guises...

..more powerful choices include the aforementioned Mazda 3 MPS, or Focus ST, or Mk5 Golf GTI...Seat Leon Cupra, Vauxhall Astra SRI 2 litre (old shape), Toyota Corolla T sport, BMW 120i or 120d....

There are plenty of warm /hot hatch alternatives out there if you think outside the norm..

[crankshaft]

thiscocks said:

What's the reason you don't want the fiat?

Nothing - I quite fancy one, just wondering what else has the same spirit.

Suzuki Swift is an option. Chassis is more important than 0-60.

[crankshaft]

I should add that for the last year i've been driving a 2005 Civic Type S (the 2-litre 5-door), bought when my head was prioritizing motorcycles. I wasn't expecting it to be fun and it isn't.