What I've learnt today
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Urban67

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126 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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That inch wheels definately do not fit on my 350i
which is a pain in the backside as I've already bought them
they do fit on but if I want to go round corners I may have a problem

nice wheels though


looks like I'll be sticking with the originals and putting these on ebay


mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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laugh...Sorry for laughing but they look like 10" wheels..What's wrong with your current ones?..Oz split rims are a good looking alternative...Someone on here may have a set or something similar...Ziga

beacon

1,144 posts

251 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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That really does look weird, did you take any pics a little further way, so we can see the overall effect. What size wheels were they? sonar

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Looking at the tyres more like racing slicks!biggrin

Are you certin there normal rims yikes look more like fancy space savers! scratchchin

Andy

Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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mrzigazaga said:
laugh...Sorry for laughing but they look like 10" wheels..What's wrong with your current ones?..Oz split rims are a good looking alternative...Someone on here may have a set or something similar...Ziga
Ha ha, you are quite right the photo does look a bit odd, that's because the car is jacked up.

I'll post a couple of photos tomorrow without the jack
The wheels fit but foul on the front of the sill when going to full lock
Nothing wrong with my old wheels at all, just fancied something different.



This photo is a little better but still jacked up

Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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beacon said:
That really does look weird, did you take any pics a little further way, so we can see the overall effect. What size wheels were they? sonar
225/40ZR18


Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Mr Tank said:
Looking at the tyres more like racing slicks!biggrin

Are you certin there normal rims yikes look more like fancy space savers! scratchchin

Andy

Probably a lot of fun in the wet!

MarkS1966

330 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Urban67 said:
225/40ZR18
It's a shame they don't fit properly on your car, as they're nice and contemporary.

When I picked mine up it had 225/45/17's on it.



They didn't look too bad, but the car handled like a bag of shcensoredite, tramlined down the road and corners could only be taken extremely slowly and very very widely!

Thank God I was able to change them smile

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Urban67 said:


This photo is a little better but still jacked up
They dont look too bad actually...When you say failing on the front sill do you mean the front inner of the wheel arch?..Does it happen to both wheels...For some reason..Probably a wonky bodyshell my N/S wheel used to do it with the original wheels and tyre size...I had to have the caster changed slightly to avoid the burning rubber smell whenever i was turning, Especially on motorways at the legal speed limit wink..The only draw back is a slight wander to the left if i let go of the steering wheel..Which is something you dont do that often anyway...I suppose they have a low profile tyre anyway but could they possibly be lower?...cheers..Ziga

Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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mrzigazaga said:
They dont look too bad actually...When you say failing on the front sill do you mean the front inner of the wheel arch?..Does it happen to both wheels...For some reason..Probably a wonky bodyshell my N/S wheel used to do it with the original wheels and tyre size...I had to have the caster changed slightly to avoid the burning rubber smell whenever i was turning, Especially on motorways at the legal speed limit wink..The only draw back is a slight wander to the left if i let go of the steering wheel..Which is something you dont do that often anyway...I suppose they have a low profile tyre anyway but could they possibly be lower?...cheers..Ziga
The back of the wheel catches on the wheel arch where the front of the sill is as the sill does sit slightly proud into the wheel arch.
Hope that makes sense.

I am beginning to think that the ride and handling will be compromised, there is a lot to be said for 14/15 inch wheels and fat tyres.


Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Chris,

Were they off the shelf or custom offset which Team Dynamics are able to offer?

I had them produce custom offsets in 9 x 18Fr & 10 x 19 R and have not problems lock to lock with 255/30/18 Fr and wider rears but did modify inner wheelwell.

My SEAC must have a little more room?

Phil
420 SEAC

pwd95

8,459 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Have you tested them with the car on the floor?

NaCl

286 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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While it's nice to have a change of wheels, there is plenty to be cocked up if you consider departing from the original wheel and tyre sizes that your TVR was born with - such as Ackermann Angle, caster, camber, slip angle, offset, oversteer, under steer, etc, etc. The dark art of chassis design is ingrained into vehicle manufacturers and the lads and lasses up in Blackpool were particularly good at it. You can really mess things up and induce dangerous handling characteristics to your pride and joy by using wheel spacers, tyres with different rolling circumferences, tyres with different aspect ratios, sidewall stifness, and even tyre pressures, if the original factory geometry settings are not maintained. They may not manifest themselves until you push towards the edge of the envelope, or find yourself reacting to an emergency situation caused by some other numpty, but the results could be disasterous.
I'm not suggesting that different size wheels, plus spacers can't be used. I'm sure there are many professional suppliers who know what they are doing, it's the age old "Caveat Emptor" thing (that's Buyer Beware, to those who never did Latin at Grammar School, like what I done).
This makes interesting reading.. www.engineering.purdue.edu/ABE/People/Krutz/Lectur...

Edited by NaCl on Friday 22 February 14:47


Edited by NaCl on Friday 22 February 14:51

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Wyn,

Yes,

Andy,

I hear what you say but have faith in my guys.

They have a wealth of experience and have incorporated chassis improvements into my chassis.

Blackpool may of had good chassis design experience but I feel they let themselves down in the flex department which possibly effects all those parameters you mentioned?






Mine is the slowest restoration ever.

Phil
420 SEAC

Grady

1,233 posts

290 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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While it's all beautiful, I really like the cast iron rotors smile

Seriously, that's new to me. Will you have to strip them or will the paint burn off quickly? Grady


Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Hi Grady,




I went for black zinc;


I'm hoping that only the pad contact area will wear over time and that the zinc will help reduce the onset of corrosion while still looking good.

We'll see.

Phil
420 SEAC

Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Transmitter Man said:
Chris,

Were they off the shelf or custom offset which Team Dynamics are able to offer?

I had them produce custom offsets in 9 x 18Fr & 10 x 19 R and have not problems lock to lock with 255/30/18 Fr and wider rears but did modify inner wheelwell.

My SEAC must have a little more room?

Phil
420 SEAC
Hi Phil

I bought them from a chap who races TVR's on the spur of the moment. I was buying some other stuff off him at the time.
Have you made modifications to your chassis to improve handling?

Chris




TA14

14,332 posts

288 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Transmitter Man said:
Interesting to see the old style diff carrier.

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Chris,

I think the biggest improvement will come from stiffening up the chassis.

You cannot believe what it was like even after we had replaced the seamed tubes with seamless and corroded steel with new tubing.

Jonathan,

Quaife ATB:




Phil
420 SEAC

Urban67

Original Poster:

126 posts

173 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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[quote=Transmitter Man]Chris,

I think the biggest improvement will come from stiffening up the chassis.

You cannot believe what it was like even after we had replaced the seamed tubes with seamless and corroded steel with new tubing.


Hi Phil

I'm doing my restoration in a slightly different way as I've bought a chassis that has been repaired and powder coated with a load of either new or re-furbed running gear. So I will be building that up when I'm ready move the engine and gearbox and the body accross. My current chassis is pretty bad and I was offered the new one.
So are there any mods you would recommend to my new chassis before I start the re-build, now would obviously be the perfect time to get it right.

love your brake discs BTW, where did you get them from?

cheers

Chris