[HELP] WTB Honda NSX
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Hi Forum,
Just saw a cherry red NSX parked at my local sports centre last week. It reminded me of the poster I had as a young lad in my bedroom of a silver NSX, and it occurred to me that this car has never been replaced by anything else as my dream car. Sure there were the countachs, F40's and even Mustangs, however none of them could quite deliver the sense of speed, agility and beauty in quite the same way that the static NSX in my beloved poster could. I'm now 25, I've been working for a while and all this time I've been driving an '04 Nissan Almera. The Almera is quite adequate for my daily needs (sub 100hp, ~30mpg, 0-60@>14seconds), I've been considering in making an investment into an NSX myself. It would be of incredible help to me if NSX owners here or importers/traders could give me a rough estimation on the prices, conditions and recurring problems of the NSX in 2013. As a potential buyer I would like to know what sort of mileage I should be wary of, common issues with the NSX, average cost of upkeep and maintenance per annum etc. I know it's a very vague sort of question I'm asking but I don't know where to start in getting more information about the NSX. I know of a user named SUDESH who seems to be the go-to guy for NSX - is on NSXownersClub but I'm not an owner so I don't feel I should register there. Thanks for taking your time to read this.
Arthur
Just saw a cherry red NSX parked at my local sports centre last week. It reminded me of the poster I had as a young lad in my bedroom of a silver NSX, and it occurred to me that this car has never been replaced by anything else as my dream car. Sure there were the countachs, F40's and even Mustangs, however none of them could quite deliver the sense of speed, agility and beauty in quite the same way that the static NSX in my beloved poster could. I'm now 25, I've been working for a while and all this time I've been driving an '04 Nissan Almera. The Almera is quite adequate for my daily needs (sub 100hp, ~30mpg, 0-60@>14seconds), I've been considering in making an investment into an NSX myself. It would be of incredible help to me if NSX owners here or importers/traders could give me a rough estimation on the prices, conditions and recurring problems of the NSX in 2013. As a potential buyer I would like to know what sort of mileage I should be wary of, common issues with the NSX, average cost of upkeep and maintenance per annum etc. I know it's a very vague sort of question I'm asking but I don't know where to start in getting more information about the NSX. I know of a user named SUDESH who seems to be the go-to guy for NSX - is on NSXownersClub but I'm not an owner so I don't feel I should register there. Thanks for taking your time to read this.
Arthur
Edited by Arthur NSX on Friday 22 February 14:11
I signed up for the purpose of finding the owner of a local car, did a bit of research, went out in the local car!
Wish I had scrapped the money together 5 years ago.
I think as long as the cars are FSH you shouldn't get many issues. Lower the mileage higher the price, if you are buying it as a keeper but doing low mileage I doubt high mileage is an issue.
Wish I had scrapped the money together 5 years ago.
I think as long as the cars are FSH you shouldn't get many issues. Lower the mileage higher the price, if you are buying it as a keeper but doing low mileage I doubt high mileage is an issue.
Ref NSXCB - if you're serious about wanting one, then by all means register - it's not just for owners. Do some reading on the usual threads, post up what you're after and any questions you've got - the guys on there are always happy to help...very accessible forum, IMHO.
It's also usually the first place you'll hear of a car for sale...
It's also usually the first place you'll hear of a car for sale...
Totally agree re servicing comment...if the car is well serviced, mileage is not an issue ... Mine has 163,000 on the clock and it is still the trusted car i turn to when my other cars break down... I have had it 9 years, and put 90,000 of the miles on myself ... There are NSXs in USA with over 400,000 miles on the clock still going strong ... They are exceptionally well made and built to last
I've owned 2 NSX's and would like to own one today.......prices have hardened considerably in the past few years not least of all because they so reliable ......parts are expensive .......UK cars with good service history's sell at a big premium .......beware of the imports
Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
Question ...what do you mean by "beware of the imports"?
I myself own an import and they are exceptional. They don't suffer the euro smile rear bumper issue, don't have the unsightly headlight washers on the pop up variants, they have a more sportier gearbox ratio and better performance than UK cars.
So for someone who has owned 2 NSX's you are somewhat ill informed; or else there is some other meaning to your remark I have yet to grasp?
Also remember every NSX built is an import, just some differences for UK spec.
To the original poster, if you want an NSX you should buy ... Prices are on the up, becoming rarer in the UK and do not be afraid of high milers if good servicing exists.
They are a cracking car and get signed up to nsxcb and ask your questions and view the tech threads for all the info you need
Good luck
I myself own an import and they are exceptional. They don't suffer the euro smile rear bumper issue, don't have the unsightly headlight washers on the pop up variants, they have a more sportier gearbox ratio and better performance than UK cars.
So for someone who has owned 2 NSX's you are somewhat ill informed; or else there is some other meaning to your remark I have yet to grasp?
Also remember every NSX built is an import, just some differences for UK spec.
To the original poster, if you want an NSX you should buy ... Prices are on the up, becoming rarer in the UK and do not be afraid of high milers if good servicing exists.
They are a cracking car and get signed up to nsxcb and ask your questions and view the tech threads for all the info you need
Good luck
michael gould said:
I've owned 2 NSX's and would like to own one today.......prices have hardened considerably in the past few years not least of all because they so reliable ......parts are expensive .......UK cars with good service history's sell at a big premium .......beware of the imports
Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
Yip 100% agree with this
Nice to read that an owner here is happy to drive and put the miles on!
Nice to read that an owner here is happy to drive and put the miles on!
The NSX man said:
Totally agree re servicing comment...if the car is well serviced, mileage is not an issue ... Mine has 163,000 on the clock and it is still the trusted car i turn to when my other cars break down... I have had it 9 years, and put 90,000 of the miles on myself ... There are NSXs in USA with over 400,000 miles on the clock still going strong ... They are exceptionally well made and built to last
michael gould said:
I've owned 2 NSX's and would like to own one today.......prices have hardened considerably in the past few years not least of all because they so reliable ......parts are expensive .......UK cars with good service history's sell at a big premium .......beware of the imports
Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
I've always bee a distant fan of NSX's, which is the most sought after model/year? They appear to be good value for money to me.Good luck ....half the fun of ownership is finding the right car
Thanks
Nigel
The facelift Type-R's are the most valuable, of which there is only one in the UK. The strong Yen and the reverence they have in Japan also make them prohibitive to import.
The facelift manual cars are also sought after. There aren't many left in the UK and they seldom come up for sale. Perhaps two per year. Rarer still are the 3.2 pop-ups. Perhaps 20 to 30 cars.
The best value for money IMO are the early manual coupes. For many this is the pinnacle of the NSX. No power steering, arguably the best build quality, nearly as quick as the later cars, easier to tune, a classic design; black roof/red body etc.
all in all, you have around 360 cars in the UK. Around 80 are 3.2 cars. A few type R's a type S and some autos. It's worth mentioning that the majority of cars reached the UK during the first three to four years of production.
Cheers.
The facelift manual cars are also sought after. There aren't many left in the UK and they seldom come up for sale. Perhaps two per year. Rarer still are the 3.2 pop-ups. Perhaps 20 to 30 cars.
The best value for money IMO are the early manual coupes. For many this is the pinnacle of the NSX. No power steering, arguably the best build quality, nearly as quick as the later cars, easier to tune, a classic design; black roof/red body etc.
all in all, you have around 360 cars in the UK. Around 80 are 3.2 cars. A few type R's a type S and some autos. It's worth mentioning that the majority of cars reached the UK during the first three to four years of production.
Cheers.
Edited by Mouser73 on Wednesday 27th March 19:52
Yip pretty much agree with the above.
Facelieft models demand high premiums due to the ever decreasing numbers (hong kong etc) ... prices are circa 45k plus ... and can be higher based on condition, colour etc. Damaged repairables can also retain decent residuals as well
NA2 pop-ups (from 97) again you are talking easily 30k upwards again all dependent on condition
Best value as stated is the NA1 cars - again NA1 cars are purely priced on their condition, mileage etc. Well serviced and maintained variants will command mid to high 20's very easily. Manuals are clearly sought after and new buyers are put off the idea of an auto on a VTEC. But the auto is a very capable car and should not be discounted if you have a genuine interested in owning the car ... they can demand lesser prices but again market dependant on what is around availble.
The NA1 went through a number of changes during its life span ... so looking for a later car the better. Word is 94 and later are the better cars to aim for; things like alloy wheel changes, ABS updates etc. Again will depend on your budget, what you want from the car and what is available. Certainly do not dismiss the older cars but they may require that bit more ...
Due to age all cars will require some form of servicing. Yes its a Honda and pretty bullet proof but the car needs work done and ALWAYS have a budget set aside for this. servicing itself is not too bad price wise but be wary of Honda NSX parts prices - range from expensive to ludicrous. A decent service record is essential for this car.
Best paying a visit to NSXCB.co.uk and feel free to post up any questions you may have. the classifieds on PH provide a good indication of prices and market demand. Pending on your budget there is an NA2 that could be available in due course as the existing owner is thinking of selling ... but be prepared to splash the cash
They are great cars, have mine for 3 years now and it always puts a smile on my face.
Facelieft models demand high premiums due to the ever decreasing numbers (hong kong etc) ... prices are circa 45k plus ... and can be higher based on condition, colour etc. Damaged repairables can also retain decent residuals as well
NA2 pop-ups (from 97) again you are talking easily 30k upwards again all dependent on condition
Best value as stated is the NA1 cars - again NA1 cars are purely priced on their condition, mileage etc. Well serviced and maintained variants will command mid to high 20's very easily. Manuals are clearly sought after and new buyers are put off the idea of an auto on a VTEC. But the auto is a very capable car and should not be discounted if you have a genuine interested in owning the car ... they can demand lesser prices but again market dependant on what is around availble.
The NA1 went through a number of changes during its life span ... so looking for a later car the better. Word is 94 and later are the better cars to aim for; things like alloy wheel changes, ABS updates etc. Again will depend on your budget, what you want from the car and what is available. Certainly do not dismiss the older cars but they may require that bit more ...
Due to age all cars will require some form of servicing. Yes its a Honda and pretty bullet proof but the car needs work done and ALWAYS have a budget set aside for this. servicing itself is not too bad price wise but be wary of Honda NSX parts prices - range from expensive to ludicrous. A decent service record is essential for this car.
Best paying a visit to NSXCB.co.uk and feel free to post up any questions you may have. the classifieds on PH provide a good indication of prices and market demand. Pending on your budget there is an NA2 that could be available in due course as the existing owner is thinking of selling ... but be prepared to splash the cash
They are great cars, have mine for 3 years now and it always puts a smile on my face.
Edited by NSXer on Thursday 28th March 13:21
Excellent cars but please do read about faults as they do have them. Parts are expensive and getting harder to obtain from abroad due to Honda's strangled hold on US dealers. Imports, auto etc are all good cars, one thing to look out for is geo as it can cost a fortune if any suspensions parts are damaged, and crash repairs, as they do swing around and many more than people will admit have seen the wrong side of a berm!
Arthur NSX said:
Hi Forum,
.... I've been considering in making an investment into an NSX myself. It would be of incredible help to me if NSX owners here or importers/traders could give me a rough estimation on the prices, conditions and recurring problems of the NSX in 2013. As a potential buyer I would like to know what sort of mileage I should be wary of, common issues with the NSX, average cost of upkeep and maintenance per annum etc. I know it's a very vague sort of question I'm asking but I don't know where to start in getting more information about the NSX. I know of a user named SUDESH who seems to be the go-to guy for NSX - is on NSXownersClub but I'm not an owner so I don't feel I should register there. Thanks for taking your time to read this.
Arthur
Hi Arthur,.... I've been considering in making an investment into an NSX myself. It would be of incredible help to me if NSX owners here or importers/traders could give me a rough estimation on the prices, conditions and recurring problems of the NSX in 2013. As a potential buyer I would like to know what sort of mileage I should be wary of, common issues with the NSX, average cost of upkeep and maintenance per annum etc. I know it's a very vague sort of question I'm asking but I don't know where to start in getting more information about the NSX. I know of a user named SUDESH who seems to be the go-to guy for NSX - is on NSXownersClub but I'm not an owner so I don't feel I should register there. Thanks for taking your time to read this.
Arthur
Edited by Arthur NSX on Friday 22 February 14:11
The NSX comes to market less often these days as more and more are purchased and become keepers, and hence market prices are on the up but still sensible for such a competent car.
Todays market, all subject to usual factors like history, paperwork, work needed, would suggest prices to be in the region of ..
Early 3.0 Manual coupes £20-£25k
Facelift 94-97 3.0 coupes £23 - £30k - Targa which is rarely on market but has chassis set up better suited to UK roads +£2k
NA2 (3.2) pop-up 98 - 01 the rarest cars £28 - 38k also available in targa
NA2 facelift cars 02 - 05 (there is one 06 car) £40 - £60k, only a handful of targas
Autos are all 3.0 and all make for a great drive ... pricing is a few £k behind the manuals but closing the gap ... there are more on the market and often with the targa top as well.
Dont go looking for a Type S, theres only one and it wont be on the market, same as the 3 x 3.0 NSX-R models and the one NA2-R ... unless you have £150k+ to tempt it away from the current owner ...
Running costs are not in F-car territory, but to caveat that point, this is a supercar, it was handbuilt, and broke new ground with the extensive use of aluminium in the chassis and bodywork. If you bend it you'll probably write it off. If you dont maintain it then you could start to run up some heavier bills.
Even the last ones are 7 yrs old, the early ones 20, so you should now start to factor in preventative as well as routine maintenance. Some items to consider are electric boards, AC components, coolant hoses (theres 23 of them) and brake caliper refresh are all worth planning for if not completed.
As well as Sudesh (in Ireland) there are Vtec Direct and Plans Motorsport who are very good with the NSX. There is limited main dealer support but the forum members can share the good ones with you. We are also extremely fortunate to have a member of the original NSX programme and F1 & Indy car Honda specialist available to complete all works for the caring NSX owner. Visit the forum for details of his expertise on the blog pages.
Annual service at these mileages is around £250 with the large cambelt, w/pump, refresh service due at longer intervals and usually on age than mileage ... typically £2k at a main dealer so check when last completed. Clutches last well, 60k plus is easily achieved, but will cost around £1800 to replace at a main dealer.
It is important to regularly check the geometry to enjoy the best the NSX can offer, usually around £100. I run mine at OEM settings and do not suffer from any of the horror stories of eating rear tyres in 4k miles. My last set did 18k ... the fronts still had 4mm.
As most NSX are weekend summer cars covering less than 5k miles pa, insurance can be sought by most around £400 or less, insured value fully comp.
www.NSXCB.co.uk come and say hello, its free although many do contribute to its upkeep once they become owners.
If you're in the market theres currently a beautiful 96 manual Targa for £31k, a rare 99/00 black coupe and a fully restored 99 manual 3.2 coupe in Imola Orange.
regards,
Edited by senninha2 on Monday 8th April 17:38
Edited by senninha2 on Monday 8th April 17:44
Edited by senninha2 on Wednesday 10th April 07:18
12v3pot said:
NigelStn said:
I believe that the Imola Orange car is a CAT C, which does put me off slightly. Though the car looks fabulous
ISTR that the former owner (AR or Ari or someone similar from memory) had said on the forum that the car should never have gone back on the road?SS
12v3pot said:
NigelStn said:
I believe that the Imola Orange car is a CAT C, which does put me off slightly. Though the car looks fabulous
ISTR that the former owner (AR or Ari or someone similar from memory) had said on the forum that the car should never have gone back on the road?The detailed strip down by a recognised repairer recorded by the current owner on NSXCB is there for all to see ... and its a very good job that assures any future owner knows the chassis is straight, the maintenance is upto date and this NSX is now ready to enjoy with confidence.
Hi,
Thats my Imola Orange NSX thats up for sale - currently on autotrader - full details of the car can be found at www.bullswood.co.uk/nsx.html - as mentioned, it was in an accident back in 2006 - when it took a good frontal whack. For me, I wanted a 3.2 manual - theres a lot more to them than just the engine/box change - Honda did loads of stuff including making the bodyshell around 50% stiffer, plus bigger brakes, revised settings etc. - I also new that the chances of finding a really top condition car were slim unless heading the positive side of £35k, so, loving a project, went for this one. Its up for sale now due to a change in direction, but having accident history knocks a lot of the value - so definatly a bargain.
Thanks, Dan.
Thats my Imola Orange NSX thats up for sale - currently on autotrader - full details of the car can be found at www.bullswood.co.uk/nsx.html - as mentioned, it was in an accident back in 2006 - when it took a good frontal whack. For me, I wanted a 3.2 manual - theres a lot more to them than just the engine/box change - Honda did loads of stuff including making the bodyshell around 50% stiffer, plus bigger brakes, revised settings etc. - I also new that the chances of finding a really top condition car were slim unless heading the positive side of £35k, so, loving a project, went for this one. Its up for sale now due to a change in direction, but having accident history knocks a lot of the value - so definatly a bargain.
Thanks, Dan.
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