Shooting foxes
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mcintyre17

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5 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Hi there

I live in Lanarkshire Scotland and my cat keeps getting attacked by a few foxes everytime he is out, my partner is talking of buying an air riffle and shooting it, can he do this, and is it legal to shoot a fox?we dont live in the country

Robb F

4,614 posts

194 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Doubt you'd have much luck killing a fox with an air rifle.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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the only way you will kill a fox with an airgun is to beat it to death with the stock.
you will need something that goes bang.

Pints

18,450 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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My grandfather used an air rifle to go away with pesky starlings.
As mentioned above, foxes make for slightly more resilient targets.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

180 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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dudleybloke said:
the only way you will kill a fox with an airgun is to beat it to death with the stock.
you will need something that goes bang.
Claymores?

sunbeam alpine

7,223 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Get a better cat.

ali_kat

32,142 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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mcintyre17 said:
Hi there

I live in Lanarkshire Scotland and my cat keeps getting attacked by a few foxes everytime he is out, my partner is talking of buying an air riffle and shooting it, can he do this, and is it legal to shoot a fox?we dont live in the country
Hi

Are you sure it is foxes? They don't normal attack cats, most likely he is fighting other cars!

No, it is not legal to shoot them with an air rifle!

It is an offence to intentionally or recklessly kill wild animals and birds. When shooting live quarry, it is your responsibility to make sure that you only do so legally.

It is an offence to knowingly cause a animal to suffer unnecessarily, which could be committed by shooting at a pet animal.


You can shoot

BIRDS: (covered by the general licences - for details visit www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/general-licences.cfm) crows, rooks, jackdaws, magpies, jays, woodpigeon, collared doves, feral pigeons.
MAMMALS: brown rats, grey squirrels, stoats, mink and rabbits

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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ali_kat said:
mcintyre17 said:
Hi there

I live in Lanarkshire Scotland and my cat keeps getting attacked by a few foxes everytime he is out, my partner is talking of buying an air riffle and shooting it, can he do this, and is it legal to shoot a fox?we dont live in the country
Hi

Are you sure it is foxes? They don't normal attack cats, most likely he is fighting other cars!

No, it is not legal to shoot them with an air rifle!

It is an offence to intentionally or recklessly kill wild animals and birds. When shooting live quarry, it is your responsibility to make sure that you only do so legally.

It is an offence to knowingly cause a animal to suffer unnecessarily, which could be committed by shooting at a pet animal.


You can shoot

BIRDS: (covered by the general licences - for details visit www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/general-licences.cfm) crows, rooks, jackdaws, magpies, jays, woodpigeon, collared doves, feral pigeons.
MAMMALS: brown rats, grey squirrels, stoats, mink and rabbits
As Ali Kat says don't use a air rifle to shoot a fox. Best to use a .22 rifle or shot gun at close range to ensure you kill it cleanly. The basc web site has loads of info on this sort thing.

snowmuncher

786 posts

186 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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You can use a FAC regulated air rifle @ .22 /.25

However, you need a firearms licence, and such an air rifle will cost much more than a decent .22 or larger caliber rifle

ps

Since you don't live in the countryside, it would be illegal to use a firearm (FAC air rifles are classed as firearms) in a built up environment without special permission.



Edited by snowmuncher on Wednesday 27th February 08:51

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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sunbeam alpine said:
Get a better cat.
This... hard to believe your cat is wandering along going 'dum-de-dum-de-dum' and a gang of foxes jumps him...?

shotgunfacelift

247 posts

158 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Simpo Two said:
sunbeam alpine said:
Get a better cat.
This... hard to believe your cat is wandering along going 'dum-de-dum-de-dum' and a gang of foxes jumps him...?
rofl

I had cartoon images in my head of this happening!

But yeh, sounds more like the cat is getting into street fights with the other cats, I appreciate foxes do live in urban environments, but I bet there are 5 cats for every fox, and they are equally as nasty (baby snatching aside)

ali_kat

32,142 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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I repeat, are you sure it is foxes? This is not normal behaviour & food is not scarce for them ATM, they're not even in cub season so not protecting young.

Edited by ali_kat on Wednesday 27th February 21:24

Jorrocks

132 posts

174 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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A .22LR is not humane on foxes, nor is an air-rifle whether FAC rated or not. I wouldn't consider anything less than .223 or .222

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Simpo Two said:
sunbeam alpine said:
Get a better cat.
This... hard to believe your cat is wandering along going 'dum-de-dum-de-dum' and a gang of foxes jumps him...?
My old ginger muggy used to chase foxes! hehe

ali_kat

32,142 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Yeah, but you're old & your eyesight is bad tongue out

Unf

251 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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shotgunfacelift said:
.. but I bet there are 5 cats for every fox, and they are equally as nasty (baby snatching aside)..
The other way around unfortunately. I see way more foxes than cats around here (SE London). And Cats are "equally as nasty as foxes" ?
Really ?
Personally I would advocate exterminating the fking lot of the bds (foxes that is, not cats). Foxes st everywhere - on top of walls, steps, everywhere you want to walk (cats generally bury it somewhere you don't).
They are a pain in the arse and the sooner they are culled or exterminated from suburbian areas the better (It's never going to happen, but I would support a law allowing me to shoot the s).



Rowan138

230 posts

174 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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.22lr will not humanely kill a fox. a .17hmr may do the trick. although for stuff the size of foxes or bigger .223, .243, or .308 will be more suitable, as those heavier calibres will result in a cleaner kill. i suspect .308 may be overdoing it unless you load with a light hollowpoint. seeing as FMJ .308 will merrily sail straight through 1/4 inch steel plate a .308 is really overdoing it!

mcintyre17

Original Poster:

5 posts

157 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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Thanks for all comments, no Iam not old, and my partner has saw with his own eyes(he is not blind lol) and has now happend to poor cat a second time, cheers for all the tips, and its is definately foxes, last night was two of them though our cat, had been stray for years and decided to settle in our home after we had to get our wee torty put down last year,so if we were to buy a gun where would I be able to buy it and what exactly would I be asking for?Remember that Iam a total novice , cheers again,Iam an animal lover and dont want to do any harm to any animal but if its my cat or a fox then sorry the fox will lose

IrateNinja

769 posts

201 months

Wednesday 27th February 2013
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mcintyre17 said:
if we were to buy a gun where would I be able to buy it and what exactly would I be asking for?Remember that Iam a total novice , cheers again,Iam an animal lover and dont want to do any harm to any animal but if its my cat or a fox then sorry the fox will lose
Check the replies more carefully.

ali_kat said:
No, it is not legal to shoot them with an air rifle!

It is an offence to intentionally or recklessly kill wild animals and birds. When shooting live quarry, it is your responsibility to make sure that you only do so legally.

It is an offence to knowingly cause a animal to suffer unnecessarily, which could be committed by shooting at a pet animal.


You can shoot

BIRDS: (covered by the general licences - for details visit www.basc.org.uk/en/shooting/general-licences.cfm) crows, rooks, jackdaws, magpies, jays, woodpigeon, collared doves, feral pigeons.
MAMMALS: brown rats, grey squirrels, stoats, mink and rabbits

Caractacus

2,621 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th February 2013
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Jorrocks said:
A .22LR is not humane on foxes, nor is an air-rifle whether FAC rated or not. I wouldn't consider anything less than .223 or .222
I use a CZ .17HMR - it's an awesome wee rifle that easily kills foxes at 400M. Heck, iirc the velocity of the bullet over 400M is still near on 1000 feet per second (2550fps muzzle vel).

As for the OP and foxes attacking cats? Very, very odd behaviour for foxes...