Door Seal

Door Seal

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Schazzar

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104 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I read somewhere that an MGF door seal is meant to be better for keeping out the noise an drops of water that appear roof up!

Also, can anything be done to reduce wind noise roof down as it spoils the trips up and down the motorway roof down!

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Mines dry and I am sure its TVR standard as issued etc seals. But there are several tweeks to foil the pesky H20, can take piccy's and post/mail/describe if required. Also hood must be in good nick, water needs to run off not get absorbed.
As for the noise, drive slower?

bobfrance

1,323 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I'd certainly be interested in any hints 'n tips you may have

>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 25th June 10:34

andymadmak

14,569 posts

270 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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My 400 appears to let in torrents of water somewhere around the wing mirrors. It then runs down the door panel and ruins the carpets.
I've tried various tweeks to seal that part of the seal where it flares to meet the window frame/wing mirror but I can still see a gap there and thats where I think the water comes in.
Anybody got any ideas for sealing that bit?

Cheers
Andy 400se

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Right, I have 2 cut outs at the bottom of the seal.

Same at the front of the seal and passenger side. This lets out any water that finds its way to the inside of the seals. As for Andy's wing mirror entry, mine seems fine there but if any gets in, its dealt with by the front cut out?.
Need to get another piccy sorted for the other added flap. Back in a while.
There is a flap either side like this

It sits inside the door when the lid is up and channels water to the outside of the door seals, its the bit with the red mark at the bottom of the rain channel.

>> Edited by JMorgan on Tuesday 25th June 11:11

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I must add that these were not done in my ownership but I had started the cutouts on me 350 and they seemed to be doing the job halting ingress that way in, although water was comming in everywhere on that one

350matt

3,738 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I posted some tips on the wedge pages site see the maintence tips section, also I'm in the process of fitting a cabin vent so when the roof is up the cabin pressure is vented to a low pressure zone. I'll let you know how effective this is.

Matt

Schazzar

Original Poster:

104 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Jeff thanks for the shots. The little flap over the door is that an add-on?

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Jeff thanks for the shots. The little flap over the door is that an add-on?



I'm sure it was. I have seen it on a few others but they have been squished out of the way. If you are not careful they get pushed up out of the way, open the doors abit and its all OK when putting the rear section up.

mark387mw

2,179 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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Jeff thanks for the shots. The little flap over the door is that an add-on?



I'm sure it was. I have seen it on a few others but they have been squished out of the way. If you are not careful they get pushed up out of the way, open the doors abit and its all OK when putting the rear section up.



My 1985 car has had these flaps since I got the car in 1989 so I'm sure they are factory fit. I was told by the dealer to ensure these sit outside the door and the rubber trim from the front of the roof panel at the A-posts are to stick out. My car is watertight in these areas. If anywhere the water finds its way in when travelling at speed and onto my feet

Mark

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I wouldn't have thought it would stand up to much at speed on the outside? In or out then is the question (oh er missis).

Mines dry as well. If I try to put the rear up with the doors closed, the first bit of rubber stops it, thats why I have to open slightly. So they seal well when I close the door against it.

Schazzar

Original Poster:

104 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th June 2002
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I'm gonna try those mods and see how it goes. I noticed though that during the last downpour water was seaping in, it looked like it was coming in from behind the door trim. I'll let you know what I find.

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th June 2002
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What I've found with the 390 is that you get leaks from the various penetrations 'twixt cabin and engine bay (speedo cable etc.) as the water runs off the screen and goes where it fancies.
My hood doesn't have that little flap discussed above, and I had chronic probs with water running down to the lower edge of the hood where it couldn't drip off due to the bound edge, so it gathered at the front, ran down the rubber door seal and over the top into the cabin. On the whole, my roof seals are tired. Not bad, just tired (didn't get wet at the Chatsworth meet, which is saying something!).
Best fix I found for parking outside was a home-made cockpit cover.
Driving in the rain produces some internal spray from the top rear of the doors as the windows bow out due to air pressure. The window runners are due for some attention and new felt liners, which may effect some degree of improvement.
I've also used Rain-X on all the windows (inc. the plastic one) with good results.

W.

Wedg1e

26,803 posts

265 months

Wednesday 26th June 2002
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I forgot to say.....

Regarding the wind noise, I've noticed with both my Wedges that the wind noise diminishes if you pop the headlights up!

Just a thought.... ;-)

W.

shpub

8,507 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th June 2002
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If there is a gap between the door frame/wing mirror box and the seal, it is usually caused by the door frame being out of alignment, the window frame being misaligned or the seal being tired and not as wide as it used to be. If the door and window line up correctly, fitting a wider seal will often save the day. Many of the specilaist trimmers sell this stuff in different widths.

Steve
www.tvrbooks.co.uk

PS if you want to realing the door/frame it is in the bible but you reeally don't want to do it. You can spend hours playing around and end up with things worse.

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th June 2002
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I've also noticed it's quietr with the headlamps up

Danny

JMorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 26th June 2002
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Comments about tired seals, when I lift the door handle to open, both doors pop out a couple of inches so I assume the seals are newish and a tight fit. It is from the pressure as I can feel it pushing not a door out of alignment.
Cabin pressure, mine does that if the missis opens here window so interested in how that goes.
I use rain X all around now, inside and out. Good stuff, the interior anti mist stuff kept it crystal from Chatsworth with all the damp clothes etc, and showed up the bits I missed.

350matt

3,738 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2002
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i've got round to installing that cabin vent, and b#gger me it works! It's generally made the car much quieter at speed and where I used to be able to see the windows being pushed out away from the top of the seal this no longer happens - Huzzah!
I used a mini screen vent /fishtail with associated hose approx 11.5" diameter and threaded it through the inner wing to poke out underneath the rear bumper. The vent is clamped between the corner /speaker panel and the body and even looks quite neat.

Matt

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2002
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Danny