Vixen front upright source?
Vixen front upright source?
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pigiron

Original Poster:

105 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Where can I buy the Vixen front upright / vertical lnk?
I understand the Vixen uses the Herald drum brake version?
Cranley have had them on back order for weeks, is there another source please?


phillpot

17,439 posts

205 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Have you tried Adrian @ ?

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Rimmer bros?

Fiscracer

585 posts

232 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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I'd use GT6 rather than Herald, they're beefier.

cantus

925 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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I did this as a replacement for the triumph sh.....!
Bulletproof now.


pigiron

Original Poster:

105 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Fiscracer said:
I'd use GT6 rather than Herald, they're beefier.
Is there a bolt-on alternative to drum brake Herald ones?

I would be very interested to learn.

Electron

605 posts

241 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Hmmm

The Standard10/ early Herald drum brake vertical has a metal plate added to hold the caliper (as used on my Clubmans car)and are rare ... if you need a pair look for a Standard 10 being broken and reuse your caliper brackets.

The slightly later Herald/Spitfire vertical (As used on my Fairthorpe) is far more common and I believe a direct replacement ? Comments welcome.

The Vitesse/GT6 I believe is stronger but still uses a bronze trunion and the final upright in the family is the Caterham one that does away with the trunion (as used on my Formula Ford ..) but would need the bottom wishbone reworking to fit ...

I think verticals have a habit of rusting just above the bronze trunion if the rubber seal isn't regularly greased causing failure - I think buying second hand is therefore unwise without crack testing ??


Slow M

2,862 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Someone in our midst let me in on this little gem.
http://www.canleyclassics.com/?xhtml=xhtml/product...


Best,
B.

Electron

605 posts

241 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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That's the Caterham jobbie .. there is also a rose joint conversion for the top joint ..

the other tim

136 posts

169 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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cantus said:
I did this as a replacement for the triumph sh.....!
Bulletproof now.

More info please

pigiron

Original Poster:

105 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Fiscracer said:
I'd use GT6 rather than Herald, they're beefier.
So are you saying that GT6 and Spitfire will fit with the old hubs and calipers?

Electron

605 posts

241 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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Adrian

Could you elaborate on this please ??

I thought you could change the upright if you retained the Standard 10 steering arm.

The Fairthorpe is actually a Standard 10 bronze trunnion based suspension which is a pig so I converted to early Spitfire uprights and retained the old steering arms.

Is there something subtle I could have missed ... I have to admit the conversion was done 20 years ago and the car seems to point roughly in the right direction.






Edited by Electron on Thursday 7th March 20:42

RCK974X

2,521 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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The Herald and GT6 uprights have slightly different size tapers where the stub axle fits in... the TR6 stub axle (as used in the Vixens) won't fit into the GT6 upright correctly. Found that out once when I got a GT6 upright by mistake.... And anyway, it doesn't look that much beefier to be honest, they use the same trunnions and thread, and that's where most of the force will resolve ?

'M' Series went to all TR6 front suspension arms and uprights


Arguments ?

TVRHTV

50 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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This may be of use.

tomtrout

595 posts

185 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Hmmm. I'm a little confused with regard to the info in the table. I was under the impression that the early herald (drum compatible) upright was different to the Vitesse (disc compatible) upright and that the OE supplied on Vixens was the former?

tomtrout

595 posts

185 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I guess what I should have asked is: Is the Canley CCS2 upright conversion compatible with the Vix hub, steering arm and TR6 stub axle?

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Tom.
if you,ve a specific requirement then the answer is that you can mix and match certain parts....You have to be very very carefull though since there are different stubs, tapers, hubs and bearings to consider.
The std set up in good condition works perfectly well with most 4 cylinder engines for all applications other than all out racing!!

N.

tomtrout

595 posts

185 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Thanks Neil. I have fitted new trunions, stubs and bearings so won't be in a rush to change but I well remember running an old GT6 in my youth and the trunions were a perennial problem. In all fairness probably because they never saw any lub from one MOT to the next!

heightswitch

6,322 posts

272 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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The principal reason for changing is to do with pad knockback when racing. The GT6 stub has a thicker outer end and therefore less flex on the outer end of the stub. the inner bearings are the same. To fit the hub to a GT6 outer involves machining for a new bearing housing on the outer. Doubtless you can also possibly source a ready machined alloy hub. It can be done but it is a bit of a slaver on and unless you are using the car for all out competition probably un necessary.

N.