My dad had his 13 plate car stolen last night

[PAUL500]

Less than 100 miles on the speedo!

He only picked it up Saturday.

Thieves broke into the place he was at the time, found his keys and had it away.

[The Moose]

Make and model?

These miserable s piss me off no end. What part of the world also?

[DocArbathnot]

Audi Sline white or black by any chance?

[Rawwr]

PAUL500 said:

Less than 100 miles on the speedo!

The thieves must've been doing well to nick it at that speed!

[daemon]

currybum said:

At least the new 'owners' can be confident that it has a FSH.

And a 3 year warranty.

Did you dad go for the service pack?

[Chicane-UK]

Got to be an Audi or a BMW..

If I was your dad I wouldn't want it back even if it's recovered.. 100 mile old engine being ragged to death. No thanks.

[ajb85]

Depending on what the thieves intentions are, given the fact that the car is so new it would be rather hard to clone. They'd have to be hanging around Audi/BMW/Whatever dealers to spot a like-for-like car plated up on a 13 reg.

[pilchardthecat]

ajb85 said:

Depending on what the thieves intentions are, given the fact that the car is so new it would be rather hard to clone. They'd have to be hanging around Audi/BMW/Whatever dealers to spot a like-for-like car plated up on a 13 reg.

Or working there

[Superhoop]

pilchardthecat said:

Or working there

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with that one....

I know that people working in dealers are seen as the lowest of the low from time to time on PH, but now not only are they untrained monkeys, they're also theiving scum who break into houses to steal cars and who only work at dealers for information related to cloning.

Are they all kiddie fiddlers too?

[alistair1234]

Superhoop said:

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with that one....

I know that people working in dealers are seen as the lowest of the low from time to time on PH, but now not only are they untrained monkeys, they're also theiving scum who break into houses to steal cars and who only work at dealers for information related to cloning.

Are they all kiddie fiddlers too?

Where did he say that all are like that? There might be one badd'un.

[pilchardthecat]

alistair1234 said:

Where did he say that all are like that? There might be one badd'un.

I have direct personal experience of criminal activity at a main dealership. It would break the naming and shaming rules of the site to say more but 2 people were arrested and found guilty of theft, amongst other things. So it does happen.

[CYMR0]

ajb85 said:

Depending on what the thieves intentions are, given the fact that the car is so new it would be rather hard to clone. They'd have to be hanging around Audi/BMW/Whatever dealers to spot a like-for-like car plated up on a 13 reg.

Sure but a 62-plate car could be sold suspiciously cheap just as easily and nearly as lucratively...

[NelsonR32]

pilchardthecat said:

alistair1234 said:

Where did he say that all are like that? There might be one badd'un.

I have direct personal experience of criminal activity at a main dealership. It would break the naming and shaming rules of the site to say more but 2 people were arrested and found guilty of theft, amongst other things. So it does happen.

I know one case at an Audi Centre MANY moons ago where a an onsite valeter (outsourced) gave some thieves the keys and about £500,000 worth of stock went missing overnight. He never spoke any names to the Police because he knew there was a nice bonus when he got out of prison for his silence.

[ajb85]

CYMR0 said:

ajb85 said:

Depending on what the thieves intentions are, given the fact that the car is so new it would be rather hard to clone. They'd have to be hanging around Audi/BMW/Whatever dealers to spot a like-for-like car plated up on a 13 reg.

Sure but a 62-plate car could be sold suspiciously cheap just as easily and nearly as lucratively...

Only a 62 plate car would not tally with the date of registration if it was to be flagged up on a police ANPR.

[Deva Link]

pilchardthecat said:

I have direct personal experience of criminal activity at a main dealership. It would break the naming and shaming rules of the site to say more but 2 people were arrested and found guilty of theft, amongst other things.

If they were convicted then it's public information so it wouldn't break the rules. Was the case reported in the press?

[Super Slo Mo]

ajb85 said:

Only a 62 plate car would not tally with the date of registration if it was to be flagged up on a police ANPR.

How would they know, all the thief has to do is nick/clone plates off a genuine car of the same make/model/colour (but on a 62 or 12 plate), and the ANPR will be happy.

Only if they start checking chassis numbers etc will they find out the discrepancy.

[Deva Link]

Super Slo Mo said:

How would they know, all the thief has to do is nick/clone plates off a genuine car of the same make/model/colour (but on a 62 or 12 plate), and the ANPR will be happy.

The "automatic" bit of ANPR will be happy if the plate is valid - it doesn't recognise makes, models and colours, needs a human looking at the screen for that.

[Snowboy]

Chances are it's already been sold twice and now on its way to eastern europe.

[Super Slo Mo]

Deva Link said:

Super Slo Mo said:

How would they know, all the thief has to do is nick/clone plates off a genuine car of the same make/model/colour (but on a 62 or 12 plate), and the ANPR will be happy.

The "automatic" bit of ANPR will be happy if the plate is valid - it doesn't recognise makes, models and colours, needs a human looking at the screen for that.

Yeah, I figured as much, I was kind of assuming that someone would be watching the screen and would spot if a white A1 should be a blue 3 series.

But maybe not.

[ajb85]

Deva Link said:

Super Slo Mo said:

How would they know, all the thief has to do is nick/clone plates off a genuine car of the same make/model/colour (but on a 62 or 12 plate), and the ANPR will be happy.

The "automatic" bit of ANPR will be happy if the plate is valid - it doesn't recognise makes, models and colours, needs a human looking at the screen for that.

True, but there is a good likelihood of the chassis numbers of vehicles with matching descriptions being checked. Once said Audi A4 (e.g) with S-Line kit, in white, with anthracite coloured alloys is put on high alert then the police should start pulling people over. I had this a couple of years ago driving a VW Bora through a town miles away from home.

However, if the thieves have done the job of cloning properly there is little chance this car will be coming back!