997.2 Dodgy service history from OPC?
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I've just put a deposit on a 997.2 S (nice spec, but most importantly sports exhaust) at an OPC.
They were up front about the service history, basically the first service was done at 27000 miles and nearly 3yrs.
Car is a 58 plate and in Jan 2013 had a major service at 30k (its current mileage).
Apparently the service book has also been replaced and will be re-stamped. I will insist on this.
As far as I'm concerned (and the OPC) it is now part Porsche Approved and sold with 2yr warranty etc so should be good to go?
Would any of you be concerned by this?
I pick it up next Saturday but am starting to worry it may devalue the car for resale (certainly it's approx £3-5k cheaper than its peers).
They were up front about the service history, basically the first service was done at 27000 miles and nearly 3yrs.
Car is a 58 plate and in Jan 2013 had a major service at 30k (its current mileage).
Apparently the service book has also been replaced and will be re-stamped. I will insist on this.
As far as I'm concerned (and the OPC) it is now part Porsche Approved and sold with 2yr warranty etc so should be good to go?
Would any of you be concerned by this?
I pick it up next Saturday but am starting to worry it may devalue the car for resale (certainly it's approx £3-5k cheaper than its peers).
Absolutely, provided the reduced buy price is as a result of this service history (I don't know). I missed out on another car in the OPC network back in January which was perfect and for some reason was approximately £4k cheaper than others in the OPC network, they just really needed to sell it.
Not sure it would bother me that much. If the price was right and I knew I was going to keep it for a good few years to prove to the next owner that I'd looked after it correctly, then I think I could justify the risk. Given it's got the OPC warranty too I reckon you're in safe hands.
They are just not great signs. Lost service book to be restamped and 27k miles on one lot of oil.
It probably makes no material difference to how the car will be over the coming 10-20 years, but you want to be sure it's the deal you want.
And when you sell it, you will get fed up with anally retentive t
ts like us sucking their teeth and saying "poor service history mate, not worth much".
Bert
It probably makes no material difference to how the car will be over the coming 10-20 years, but you want to be sure it's the deal you want.
And when you sell it, you will get fed up with anally retentive t
ts like us sucking their teeth and saying "poor service history mate, not worth much".Bert
Might be me, but aren't OPC's usually really strict what they put a warranty on? At least they certainly were at Guildford when I had my 111 point check and put on a warranty!
If there is a shady service history how can an OPC put a 2yr warranty on it? Is it one rule for joe blogs who comes in off the street and completely another when its a car being retailed by said OPC?
Seems unusual they'd bend the rules...
If there is a shady service history how can an OPC put a 2yr warranty on it? Is it one rule for joe blogs who comes in off the street and completely another when its a car being retailed by said OPC?
Seems unusual they'd bend the rules...
I don't know about you folks but when I have had a new car the first service is the one I always ensure I don't go over the mileage for. Not only that I try and make sure that I don't drive the nuts off the car as I belong to the school of thought that it should be gently worn in first and that this might help it have a slightly longer and more reliable life span - whether it's true or not I don't really care!
Ultimately I tend to pamper and be very careful with it is what I am conveying!
For somebody to have bought an expensive new car, not serviced it on time, then flogged it with it needing a major service on it the first time around, suggests somebody with more cash than sense who screwed the nuts off it, got bored then got rid and simply didn't care if they broke it or not.
Ultimately I tend to pamper and be very careful with it is what I am conveying!
For somebody to have bought an expensive new car, not serviced it on time, then flogged it with it needing a major service on it the first time around, suggests somebody with more cash than sense who screwed the nuts off it, got bored then got rid and simply didn't care if they broke it or not.
BertBert said:
Lost service book to be restamped and 27k miles on one lot of oil.
That's bad enought at any point in a car's life, but is it not espcially bad if its from new, as do Posrche not stipulate a running in service to get rid of the oil that has been present in the engine during the intial run-in period? (Think some OEM's actually use a different grade of oil for this period?)
mollytherocker said:
Martian O said:
Would I buy a car that hadn't had a service/oil change for 27K miles, no.
Makes you wonder what else had been neglected.
Agree. I wouldnt touch it. There are plenty more out there.Makes you wonder what else had been neglected.
In fact I didn't even spot the bit about it nearly being 3 years!! I mean I could have kind of understood that if you were driving all over the place and didn't have the time and was a complete doughnut that you might go slightly over the servicing mileage but 3 years!!!! They really didn't care for the car one bit!
f1ashgordon said:
Pretty much what I was getting at- I wouldn't buy this car outside OPC, I suppose I wanted to gauge your reactions to this issue within a Porsche Approved safety net.
What's your plan for two years down the line when they refuse to renew the warranty? Underwriting criteria have tightened and it falls out of scope. Maybe you just need to spend an extra £500 to have them leak down test it?Hi
I had this on mine although the car had done less than 10,000 miles in the three years before its first service. Am I not right in thinking that the first service as we know it doesn't exist on the 911? The first one being at two years? If so then the service was missed by 7,000 miles or a year which doesn't seem as bad.
In my case the 111 point check was enough for them to put the warranty on (taken in to an OPC by the private seller for my peace of mind) and they have just renewed for another year. So the warranty wont be affected.
I wouldn't necessarily worry if it is a keeper.
I had this on mine although the car had done less than 10,000 miles in the three years before its first service. Am I not right in thinking that the first service as we know it doesn't exist on the 911? The first one being at two years? If so then the service was missed by 7,000 miles or a year which doesn't seem as bad.
In my case the 111 point check was enough for them to put the warranty on (taken in to an OPC by the private seller for my peace of mind) and they have just renewed for another year. So the warranty wont be affected.
I wouldn't necessarily worry if it is a keeper.
Interesting gents. Of all the questions I asked, rev ranges etc I simply assumed a full service history because it was OPC.
So, apparently OPC spent a lot of money bringing it up to scratch so that it could be sold Porsche Approved, I'll ask for a list of all the work done, but I'm getting the impression that irrespective of warranty (in writing and in writing that it'll be renewed) some of you think it a time bomb. I understand why.
Which is my reason for canvassing opinion, I'm not looking for anyone to reaffirm my decision either, so I'm more likely not to proceed, but it's bloody lovely! There's not a mark or crease on the driver's seat and the body work is perfect.
Ah, shame, as it's the only 997.2s with approx 30k miles for under £40k in OPC let alone specialists.
So, apparently OPC spent a lot of money bringing it up to scratch so that it could be sold Porsche Approved, I'll ask for a list of all the work done, but I'm getting the impression that irrespective of warranty (in writing and in writing that it'll be renewed) some of you think it a time bomb. I understand why.
Which is my reason for canvassing opinion, I'm not looking for anyone to reaffirm my decision either, so I'm more likely not to proceed, but it's bloody lovely! There's not a mark or crease on the driver's seat and the body work is perfect.
Ah, shame, as it's the only 997.2s with approx 30k miles for under £40k in OPC let alone specialists.
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