Our attitude towards cars is "embarrassing"
Our attitude towards cars is "embarrassing"
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DCLXIV

Original Poster:

362 posts

166 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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According to Volvo's CEO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21708251

BBC said:
"How many cylinders?" Haakan Samuelsson asks, nonplussed, as he gazes at the Swedish carmaker's diesel-electric hybrid car at the stand in Geneva.

"Who cares?"

To Mr Samuelsson, the question belongs to a not-so-distant past, when petrolheads with a taste for growling engines and burnt rubber were the arbiters of which cars were cool and which were not.

"Such owners want to signal 'I have an expensive car' or 'I have a sporty car'. Volvo should never do either of those. There'll never be a Volvo with a big V8 engine.

"Attitudes in society have changed. It's a bit like driving without seatbelts. Nowadays, such behaviour is just embarrassing."
Perhaps someone should tell Polestar about the 'Volvos should never be a sporty car' bit.

s m

24,494 posts

234 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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DCLXIV said:
According to Volvo's CEO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21708251

BBC said:
"How many cylinders?" Haakan Samuelsson asks, nonplussed, as he gazes at the Swedish carmaker's diesel-electric hybrid car at the stand in Geneva.

"Who cares?"

To Mr Samuelsson, the question belongs to a not-so-distant past, when petrolheads with a taste for growling engines and burnt rubber were the arbiters of which cars were cool and which were not.

"Such owners want to signal 'I have an expensive car' or 'I have a sporty car'. Volvo should never do either of those. There'll never be a Volvo with a big V8 engine.

"Attitudes in society have changed. It's a bit like driving without seatbelts. Nowadays, such behaviour is just embarrassing."
Perhaps someone should tell Polestar about the 'Volvos should never be a sporty car' bit.
What happened to the V80 Volvo with the big V8 engine by the way?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volvo/s80/firs...

BoostMonkey

579 posts

216 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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His comments are just pandering to the audience that Volvo want (A to B people), which he doesn’t realise never read motoring articles and so all he's done is alienating some of his current and potential customers.

Most of the people that I know who work for Volvo (ok its only 6) are the biggest petrol heads, I would have thought they would be rather embarrassed by his comments.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

289 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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His attitude is worrying though, because it seems to align with the absurd attitude exhibited by the Advertising Standards Agency, ie that the act of enjoying driving should be treated with the same hushed-up disdain and social distaste as smoking and binge drinking.

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

185 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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s m said:
DCLXIV said:
According to Volvo's CEO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21708251

BBC said:
"How many cylinders?" Haakan Samuelsson asks, nonplussed, as he gazes at the Swedish carmaker's diesel-electric hybrid car at the stand in Geneva.

"Who cares?"

To Mr Samuelsson, the question belongs to a not-so-distant past, when petrolheads with a taste for growling engines and burnt rubber were the arbiters of which cars were cool and which were not.

"Such owners want to signal 'I have an expensive car' or 'I have a sporty car'. Volvo should never do either of those. There'll never be a Volvo with a big V8 engine.

"Attitudes in society have changed. It's a bit like driving without seatbelts. Nowadays, such behaviour is just embarrassing."
Perhaps someone should tell Polestar about the 'Volvos should never be a sporty car' bit.
What happened to the V80 Volvo with the big V8 engine by the way?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volvo/s80/firs...
He's a little late to the game...




Hoofy

80,155 posts

313 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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That's embarrassing.

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

296 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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The man who thinks no one cares how many cylinders cars have doean't know how many cylinders his company's car has.

At least he is genuinely disinterested, rather than just putting it on. I'd respect him even less if he was faking it.

Steameh

3,155 posts

241 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Volvo Guy said:
Or consider the environment. "People want to be responsible," he says. "And they want to show others that they are responsible, when it comes to the environment."
So its embarrassing to show others you have a performance car, but its not embarrassing to show others you have an environmental car?

Neither are embarrassing.

Moron.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

289 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Also, he seems to undermine his own point slightly here:

Abba van Boringssnore said:
The V60 "can accelerate from 0-60 mph (0-100km/h) in "five seconds or something like that"
Right, so you don't know the performance statistics of the car you've just launched, but it is actually quite fast.

rolleyes

otolith

69,562 posts

235 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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If we started really to be embarrassed about buying cars for other than purely rational and utilitarian reasons, most of the car industry would be out of business by the end of the year. He should be careful what he wishes for.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

166 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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I bet he looks back in disgust at the T5 touring car days!

The Wookie

14,209 posts

259 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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There have been and always will be sanctimonious tossers.

Until Volvo are the biggest car maker in the world purely based on the notion indifference then we have little to worry about... Oh no wait what about GM, we're dooomed!

Shadows

375 posts

165 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Agree with him on safety aspects and it's generally overlooked, after that I just think the guys a Muppet. He's just admitting that Volvo don't really care about good driving cars, "Attitudes in society have changed, it's a bit like driving without seatbelts, such behaviour is just embarrassing".

Must be some hypocritical abstract thinking there buddy, last time I checked you released a flash Hot Hatch called a V30 (You know the one with the engine used in a Focus ST) and it ain't cheap either.

That self admitted brilliance is why BMW / AUDI and FORD are pounding you into the ground with sales figures.

daemon

40,169 posts

228 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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DCLXIV said:
According to Volvo's CEO:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21708251

BBC said:
"How many cylinders?" Haakan Samuelsson asks, nonplussed, as he gazes at the Swedish carmaker's diesel-electric hybrid car at the stand in Geneva.

"Who cares?"

To Mr Samuelsson, the question belongs to a not-so-distant past, when petrolheads with a taste for growling engines and burnt rubber were the arbiters of which cars were cool and which were not.

"Such owners want to signal 'I have an expensive car' or 'I have a sporty car'. Volvo should never do either of those. There'll never be a Volvo with a big V8 engine.

"Attitudes in society have changed. It's a bit like driving without seatbelts. Nowadays, such behaviour is just embarrassing."
Perhaps someone should tell Polestar about the 'Volvos should never be a sporty car' bit.
After just looking at your profile, dont be worrying yourself.

Edited by daemon on Friday 8th March 14:09

g3org3y

22,516 posts

222 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Do not feed! smile

EDLT

15,421 posts

237 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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The Wookie said:
There have been and always will be sanctimonious tossers.

Until Volvo are the biggest car maker in the world purely based on the notion indifference then we have little to worry about... Oh no wait what about GM, we're dooomed!
GM make loads of V8s. So do Ford, Toyota and VAG. Clearly, V8 = Success.

Robb F

4,614 posts

202 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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daemon said:
After just looking at your profile, dont be worrying yourself.

Edited by daemon on Friday 8th March 14:09
What does the car the OP has got to do with anything confused

(I await a whoosh)

JREwing

17,551 posts

210 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Surely being deliberately ignorant is more embarrassing?

DanielSan

20,084 posts

198 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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If this really is the view of their CEO then we can all hope Volvo just go the same way as Saab to be honest. No reason to be embarassed about selling cars or caring about them then. tt.

jones325i

755 posts

184 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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VeeDub Geezer said:
Dullest looking V8 engine ever?