Would a separate Thread for F1 betting be preferable?
Would a separate Thread for F1 betting be preferable?
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MGJohn

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212 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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I love an occasioanl flutter. I've made no secret here on PH that I like the occasional wager. Nice to win a few quid certainly but, even nicer to be right as well as slightly richer.

So how about a separate thread where the eagle eyed can highlight good opportunities and value.

For instance, some on-line bookies on the first race are betting 5-1 both Alonso and Button for the win down under with 1/5th odds a place 1-2-3. so, even money if yer man makes a podiun without the win.

That same bookie is offering 5/4 against ( 1.25 to 1 ) A PODIUM.

So if you fancy an each way bet on somebody like those two fans' favourites, best to have a single win bet instead of a simple each way one plus, a separate PODIUM bet @ 5-4 ... better value by far. If yer man only... only ? ... manages 2nd or 3rd, you will show a small profit betting win only plus podium. You will merely break level if having an each way bet on yer man @ 1/5th the odds a place.

I have seen some other value bets and will keep an eye on things all through the season as I always do and give 'heads up' if I spot something unusual. Contrary to popular belief, the bookies do not always win and when they get things wrong, best to move quickly.

So, what do others think or when you see some value, keep it to yourself .. there are folks like that ... the rascals ... hehe

lbc

3,331 posts

246 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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I don't like, and have no interest in the gambling side of motorsport, so maybe it could be moved elsewhere, maybe to a gambling section.

Gambling and sport enthusiasts should always be separated, as they don't mix well.

MGJohn

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Friday 8th March 2013
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lbc said:
I don't like, and have no interest in the gambling side of motorsport, so maybe it could be moved elsewhere, maybe to a gambling section.

Gambling and sport enthusiasts should always be separated, as they don't mix well.
Tell that to the 1000s who attend the Cheltenham Festival next week... wink

lbc

3,331 posts

246 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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MGJohn said:
Tell that to the 1000s who attend the Cheltenham Festival next week... wink
Horse racing is not a sport in my view.

Where are the engines? smile

Flogging a horse to death to cross a line first is not my idea of sport.


Edited by lbc on Friday 8th March 21:40

MGJohn

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Friday 8th March 2013
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lbc said:
MGJohn said:
Tell that to the 1000s who attend the Cheltenham Festival next week... wink
Horse racing is not a sport in my view.

Where are the engines. smile
I think you take too dim a view of things. Know something?

There are many more who do not see Motor Racing ..... as a sport.

lbc

3,331 posts

246 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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MGJohn said:
lbc said:
MGJohn said:
Tell that to the 1000s who attend the Cheltenham Festival next week... wink
Horse racing is not a sport in my view.

Where are the engines. smile
I think you take too dim a view of things. Know something?

There are many more who do not see Motor Racing ..... as a sport.
Just as I don't see football as being a sport. biggrin

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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I don't gamble, but like to see how the odds go as the season goes on. Don't mind if it is in the F1 thread or not.

Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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YES.

Al W

591 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Yes here too. I've no interest in gambling, being more interested in the quality of racing than the result.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Yes. The gambling stuff is just disruptive of the threads, put it somewhere else.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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And me.

Never a fan of sports related gambling - keep it for the nags and dogs

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Disruptive? How so?

MGJohn

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212 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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TheHeretic said:
Disruptive? How so?
Quite obviously it disrupts the multiplicity of Alonso is the greatest and better than Hamilton type disruptive exchanges of views on the F1 threads... wink

... Glad to say that there is sufficient interest so as requested by others in past seasons, I will set up an "official" non-disruptive ( smile ) separate thread for those who do care about such things before each F1 event during the season.

That is unless those who run this site see things differently and decide otherwise.

I love to hear the success stories here like the PHer ( and shrewd judge ) who had a substantial return backing Alonso in his "dog" car when he won at 66-1 and when Button wins at long odds. Bring it on. That's my kind of 'disruption' ... biggrin

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

198 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Certainly a thread concerning betting and odds being offered , would be a good idea. It keeps the subject in one place, as against multiple threads containing the subject.

That way those that are interested in such can visit and read, those not interested ,don't have their time wasted by it.

I rarely bet myself, basically because I enjoy it too much, but each to their own.

Daz68

3,750 posts

239 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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MGJohn said:
I love an occasioanl flutter. I've made no secret here on PH that I like the occasional wager. Nice to win a few quid certainly but, even nicer to be right as well as slightly richer.

So how about a separate thread where the eagle eyed can highlight good opportunities and value.

For instance, some on-line bookies on the first race are betting 5-1 both Alonso and Button for the win down under with 1/5th odds a place 1-2-3. so, even money if yer man makes a podiun without the win.

That same bookie is offering 5/4 against ( 1.25 to 1 ) A PODIUM.

So if you fancy an each way bet on somebody like those two fans' favourites, best to have a single win bet instead of a simple each way one plus, a separate PODIUM bet @ 5-4 ... better value by far. If yer man only... only ? ... manages 2nd or 3rd, you will show a small profit betting win only plus podium. You will merely break level if having an each way bet on yer man @ 1/5th the odds a place.

I have seen some other value bets and will keep an eye on things all through the season as I always do and give 'heads up' if I spot something unusual. Contrary to popular belief, the bookies do not always win and when they get things wrong, best to move quickly.

So, what do others think or when you see some value, keep it to yourself .. there are folks like that ... the rascals ... hehe
Oh dear looks like thee and me and a very few others like a flutter. Think its a great idea myself. Won a fortune on Jenson before the bookies became wise to him.

MGJohn

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Saturday 9th March 2013
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Daz68 said:
MGJohn said:
I love an occasioanl flutter. I've made no secret here on PH that I like the occasional wager. Nice to win a few quid certainly but, even nicer to be right as well as slightly richer.

So how about a separate thread where the eagle eyed can highlight good opportunities and value.

For instance, some on-line bookies on the first race are betting 5-1 both Alonso and Button for the win down under with 1/5th odds a place 1-2-3. so, even money if yer man makes a podiun without the win.

That same bookie is offering 5/4 against ( 1.25 to 1 ) A PODIUM.

So if you fancy an each way bet on somebody like those two fans' favourites, best to have a single win bet instead of a simple each way one plus, a separate PODIUM bet @ 5-4 ... better value by far. If yer man only... only ? ... manages 2nd or 3rd, you will show a small profit betting win only plus podium. You will merely break level if having an each way bet on yer man @ 1/5th the odds a place.

I have seen some other value bets and will keep an eye on things all through the season as I always do and give 'heads up' if I spot something unusual. Contrary to popular belief, the bookies do not always win and when they get things wrong, best to move quickly.

So, what do others think or when you see some value, keep it to yourself .. there are folks like that ... the rascals ... hehe
Oh dear looks like thee and me and a very few others like a flutter. Think its a great idea myself. Won a fortune on Jenson before the bookies became wise to him.
I can assure you it's much more than just thee and me. In past seasons, both on this and other car enthusiasts' sites I frequent, from the PMs received, many more are in favour and are keen to participate.

Yes, I've done quite well on Jenson Button. Not just his race wins at long odds, but, because of his qualifying form, in a match with his "racer" team mate, Button would be at much longer more attractive odds to finish in front of Hamilton ... in the race. That has also been productive.

Button v. Hamilton match odds THIS season has seen that odds situation reversed. So, if the Mercedes is a better race package THIS season .... idea

Get my "drift" or do you have an excess of understeer ... wink

MGJohn

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Saturday 9th March 2013
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Gaz. said:
MGJohn said:
That is unless those who run this site see things differently and decide otherwise.
I certainly don't have a problem with the betting threads either way, if you want a separate thread then go ahead, if you wish to drop the betting posts into the main threads you are free to do that too.
That is a class clarification decision. Thanks.

jbudgie

10,021 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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REALIST123 said:
Yes. The gambling stuff is just disruptive of the threads, put it somewhere else.
Would agree with this.

heebeegeetee

30,121 posts

277 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I would like to see a separate thread for betting tbh, and I often find that the betting talk can disrupt a thread.

For some reason I have never had any interest whatsoever in trying to predict a race - I don't think I see the point - but I think there should be a place for those who do like to do so.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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heebeegeetee said:
I would like to see a separate thread for betting tbh, and I often find that the betting talk can disrupt a thread.

For some reason I have never had any interest whatsoever in trying to predict a race - I don't think I see the point - but I think there should be a place for those who do like to do so.
Plenty of folks give predictions before a race. The only difference being the odds attached.