Removal of DPF on Golf GT170
Removal of DPF on Golf GT170
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Lippyx

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52 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Has anyone had the DPF moved from their diesel? I am having issue with my Golf's DPF. And even though it has low mileage and is used on the motorway 5 days a week, VW will not admit it has a problem (even though they admitted that for mk5's, this is a common fault!)

I am now considering having the DPF removed as I have had enough of the lumpy running and smell not to mention the slugish drive!

Who has done this? How much was it? And are you pleased with the out come?

Rich_W

12,548 posts

243 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Lippyx said:
.. And even though it has low mileage and is used on the motorway 5 days a week, VW will not admit it has a problem (even though they admitted that for mk5's, this is a common fault!)
And sadly therin lies your problem. DPF and Diesels in general are for people doing HIGH mileages. Driving on the motorway every day is no guarantess of success with DPF. It's about getting the car up to operating temp and holding it there for half an hour or so regularly. I would suggest than ~75% of owners never do this. And in those situations a Petrol will be better for them. But of course that means paying higher tax so people go diesel when it's not correct for their useage.

Removing it will also potentially mean MOT failure since the amount of soot out the back will be much greater than with the DPF in place. (since the DPF is not catching it) UP to you if that's an issue. And also means in a rounda bout way you are not paying enough tax for the new higher emmisions of your car. Again up to you if taht's an issue. But I've heard of 1 person (not many I grant you) actually getting done for removing the DPF and they nailed him on Tax avoidance?!?!? laugh

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 10th March 13:01

jamei303

3,084 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Buy a petrol car. Jesus Christ.

super tech

49 posts

173 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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makes a massive difference when remapped at the same time, both in terms of driveability and power, expect an economy increase too.

wheedler

419 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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There was a guy in Surrey who would remove the dpf and re map it fir £450, guess the further you are from London the cheaper it is. Mine is on 128k and only once I had to pay for regeneration and I live in central London, there is a dpf flusher but I've been scared to use it, if your close/brave enough to use it you can have it

Iirc, I paid 45 for the regen at a indy

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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jamei303 said:
Buy a petrol car. Jesus Christ.
Why the aggression?..

Lippyx

Original Poster:

52 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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jamei303 said:
Buy a petrol car. Jesus Christ.
Not sure this was necessary? I drive on the motorway for 2 hours every weekday, doing a 40 mile round trip, easily doing 70 mph for at least half an hour, surely this is correct for the DPF to do it thing? VW told me for the DPF to kick in, I need to do over 50 mph for 15 min. They have told me, mine is doing a regen all the time, hence the lumpy tick over and smell of burnt soot.

I didn't buy a diesel for cheaper tax, my previous car cost me £400 a year for tax!!

Lippyx

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52 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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super tech said:
makes a massive difference when remapped at the same time, both in terms of driveability and power, expect an economy increase too.
Yes. I found a company that done a DPF removal on a GT170 and remap and got from 170 to over 200 bhp with almost 60 mpg!

wheedler

419 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Is it a one owner car?

I have the same car on 08 plate, live in central London and have 120k on the clock with no issues, so possible that you're filter has been run full for a while and each time a regen is done it doesn't burn everything. £500 is not really a big bill imo

jamei303

3,084 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Lippyx said:
Not sure this was necessary? I drive on the motorway for 2 hours every weekday, doing a 40 mile round trip, easily doing 70 mph for at least half an hour, surely this is correct for the DPF to do it thing? VW told me for the DPF to kick in, I need to do over 50 mph for 15 min. They have told me, mine is doing a regen all the time, hence the lumpy tick over and smell of burnt soot.

I didn't buy a diesel for cheaper tax, my previous car cost me £400 a year for tax!!
Why not get the problem fixed then? If it was a catalytic converter that wasn't working properly, would you just rip it off? Why would you make your vehicle more polluting rather than fix it? confused

Benbay001

5,895 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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jamei303 said:
Why would you make your vehicle more polluting rather than fix it? confused
Perhaps you dont believe in man made global warming?


Centurion07

10,395 posts

278 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Lippyx said:
They have told me, mine is doing a regen all the time, hence the lumpy tick over and smell of burnt soot.
Keep an eye on the oil level. Excessive regens will force diesel into the oil. I had maybe 10K miles between oil changes and there was an extra 2 litres drained from the sump even though I hadn't topped it up because mine had been doing excessive regens.

Either way you need to get it sorted and having it removed & remapped is, theoretically, the simplest and quickest way of achieving this.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

198 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Benbay001 said:
Perhaps you dont believe in man made global warming?
Diesel Particulate Filters have nothing to do with global warming. They filter out the very small bits of soot that give people lung disease.

wheedler

419 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Willy Nilly said:
Diesel Particulate Filters have nothing to do with global warming. They filter out the very small bits of soot that give people lung disease.
Exactly, it doesn't stop people that have no idea what the talking about keep spouting st. Perhaps they should rename it the saving your lungs filter. Has anyone noticed how diesel have no visible soot under acceleration, well that's the dpf working.

Sounds like your filter is full, replace it or get rid of it

jamei303

3,084 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Next up: How can I add lead to my petrol to increase performance? rolleyes

Lippyx

Original Poster:

52 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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jamei303 said:
Why not get the problem fixed then? If it was a catalytic converter that wasn't working properly, would you just rip it off? Why would you make your vehicle more polluting rather than fix it? confused
Firstly, why should I pay to fix it? I am the cars second owner, it has 60k on the clock, its been confirmed the DPF is faulty, not at the end of its life and it costs £1500!

wheedler

419 posts

168 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Lippyx said:
Firstly, why should I pay to fix it? I am the cars second owner, it has 60k on the clock, its been confirmed the DPF is faulty, not at the end of its life and it costs £1500!
Jeez don't pay, don't ask for advice if you can't deal with it

Lippyx

Original Poster:

52 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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wheedler said:
Sounds like your filter is full, replace it or get rid of it
Well, VW said to "pop in anytime the DPF light comes on, and they will clear it out free of charge"... Thanks?!
Is it full? It does this running lumpy all the time, sometimes very slightly, sometimes the whole car is shaking. Its only when the light comes on, does it then require a manual clear out by VW. Well... That's what I was lead to believe?

Steve H

7,677 posts

226 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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If it's faulty, it's at the end of it's life wink.

Remap to remove is a pretty straightforward solution and it will still pass a smoke test if everything else is OK so I wouldn't worry about people throwing their lungs at you in protest as you drive past.

skene

2,831 posts

203 months

Sunday 10th March 2013
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Lippyx said:
Firstly, why should I pay to fix it? I am the cars second owner, it has 60k on the clock, its been confirmed the DPF is faulty, not at the end of its life and it costs £1500!
The dpf isn't faulty. It's doing/has done what it's meant to do. If you've been driving the car like miss daisy, no offence but you clogged the filter.

Also about 500ish should get it cut out and the ecu reflashed. I was quoted that by a local garage but I'm in scotland don't know how relevant it'll be.