Steering Rack Differences - Chimaera, Griffith and Cerbera
Steering Rack Differences - Chimaera, Griffith and Cerbera
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ukkid35

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202 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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The Chimaera, Griffith and Cerbera all share the same rack bar 'TVR H0610', so what is the difference between the racks?

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BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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confused They're all the same ergo there is no difference.

ukkid35

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202 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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So why are Chimaera and Griffith racks TVR H0362, and a Cerbera rack TVR H0360?

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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How curious. I thought the Cerbera was always supposed to have very quick steering (compared to the previous cars) or is it just the geometry that lead to that reputation?

ukkid35

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Monday 11th March 2013
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Chris71 said:
How curious. I thought the Cerbera was always supposed to have very quick steering (compared to the previous cars) or is it just the geometry that lead to that reputation?
That is correct, 2 turns lock to lock on the Cerb, but how can the others different if they share the same rack bar?

Basil Brush

5,609 posts

292 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Different steering arm length meaning different rack to wheel movement ratios?

From the photos I've seen, the pinion housing looks different on the chim and griff racks.

ukkid35

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Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Basil Brush said:
Different steering arm length meaning different rack to wheel movement ratios?

From the photos I've seen, the pinion housing looks different on the chim and griff racks.
RG list the same 336mm track rod TVR H0290 for all three cars, however they also list a 306mm track rod TVR H0738 for Cerbs, Tuscans, Tamoras etc

So perhaps the only difference is upper part of the pinion?

phazed

22,457 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Track rods wont make a difference to how many turns.

I think some people are confused as to how many turns lock to lock a rack can produce. It largely depends on what wheels are fitted and what spacers are fitted below the gaiters restricting the lock!

What is 2.2 turns on one rack can be made to 2.4 turns just by loosing a spacer.

Basil Brush

5,609 posts

292 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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ukkid35 said:
Basil Brush said:
Different steering arm length meaning different rack to wheel movement ratios?

From the photos I've seen, the pinion housing looks different on the chim and griff racks.
RG list the same 336mm track rod TVR H0290 for all three cars, however they also list a 306mm track rod TVR H0738 for Cerbs, Tuscans, Tamoras etc

So perhaps the only difference is upper part of the pinion?
No, steering arms not track rods, ie distance from center of upright to track rod end.

ukkid35

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Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Basil Brush said:
No, steering arms not track rods, ie distance from center of upright to track rod end.
Ah I see, but what about the rack itself - are they interchangeable?

Basil Brush

5,609 posts

292 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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phazed said:
Track rods wont make a difference to how many turns.

I think some people are confused as to how many turns lock to lock a rack can produce. It largely depends on what wheels are fitted and what spacers are fitted below the gaiters restricting the lock!

What is 2.2 turns on one rack can be made to 2.4 turns just by loosing a spacer.
It's the same with the Tuscan MK1 compared to the Mk2. People talk about the gearing being different as the turns lock to lock varies, but it's down to a change in design of the top wishbone allowing the wheels to turn further.