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My Chim 4 Ltr has to go to make room for other projects. It's become a bit of a "Garage Queen" but is a sound unmolested vehicle. My rationale is to MOT it but leave it SORN and advertise it as such. My thinking behind this, wrongly or otherwise?? is to deter the "tyre kickers and lets have a go mate brigade" Hopefully this will attract genuine prospective buyers. Is my thinking sound or will it put people off, not having a vehicle that they can "Road Test"? I could of course tax on line if I considered that I had prospective buyer? Is it still an offence to drive a car not displaying a current tax disc? Although you've taxed the vehicle on line? Thanks for any thought or advice. Cheers J C.
pwd95 said:
Never had a problem with tyre kickers/joy riders with selling a TVR on PH. Not being able to test drive a car cuts down your audience considerably IMHO. Make it ready to drive away. 
Seconded. Plus, any buyer will want to go out in it (you driving)in order to make sure it runs soundly. For £110 saving you are limiting your chances of a sale - I wouldn't even consider it myself.Get it ready to drive - definitely.
Make it clear in your advert that you need proof of insurance before letting someone else drive, that should cut down the risk of tyre kickers.
That said I have 2 views about tyre kickers (to be clear: I have a Chim so mean to cause no offence with the first one!)
1) Chims are 'old hat' these days, why not go kick more expensive/faster/newer tyres?
2) Tyre kickers generally will go to a garage where they know there is appropriate insurance and more chance of a test drive. They also are usually more likely to go on a whim and will try to drive the fastest thing when they get there, rather than go to the effort of calling ahead to organise a mutually convenient time to drive a specific car.
Of course, there are still gits out there and they may come knocking regardless of any action you take beforehand but if it can't be driven, it'll be much harder to sell - I doubt many have been bought without a test drive?!
Rich
Make it clear in your advert that you need proof of insurance before letting someone else drive, that should cut down the risk of tyre kickers.
That said I have 2 views about tyre kickers (to be clear: I have a Chim so mean to cause no offence with the first one!)
1) Chims are 'old hat' these days, why not go kick more expensive/faster/newer tyres?
2) Tyre kickers generally will go to a garage where they know there is appropriate insurance and more chance of a test drive. They also are usually more likely to go on a whim and will try to drive the fastest thing when they get there, rather than go to the effort of calling ahead to organise a mutually convenient time to drive a specific car.
Of course, there are still gits out there and they may come knocking regardless of any action you take beforehand but if it can't be driven, it'll be much harder to sell - I doubt many have been bought without a test drive?!
Rich
In all my years of buying motors, I turned up took one look at it and started going for my wallet! Test drive was to the garage to put petrol in it, I had this mad idea the guy might change his mind so wanted to get away ASAP. f
king idiot, I've spent a year putting it right. Its funny how instant love can mist an otherwise clear mind. Doah. Guess what even after all the pain it's still love. Lol. Goodluck selling. If someone shows me proof of the money I'd let them test it, otherwise, go dream. From all here hope to see you back soon!
king idiot, I've spent a year putting it right. Its funny how instant love can mist an otherwise clear mind. Doah. Guess what even after all the pain it's still love. Lol. Goodluck selling. If someone shows me proof of the money I'd let them test it, otherwise, go dream. From all here hope to see you back soon! Pipeandacrepe said:
When the day comes to sell mine, it will say no test drive without passport, driving license and insurance certificate, and I wouldn't think twice about telling them to sod off if I didn't like the look of them.
yeah but presumably you will take them out yourself instead ? (which couldnt legally be done with no tax)Cheers all and thanks for the thoughts/advice. Protective lot aren't we 
Quite right really, it's my "Baby"; many happy evenings/weekend spent underneath, on top and curled up in the footwells getting it just right and pretty. It's been a relationship of big big smiles at its voice, looks and performance. Point taken reference tax etc all I need is the sun to shine to show at at her best, roof off and a dry interesting road. I've got a gut feelling however "I'll be back" Again thanks to you all for the helpful posts and be careful out there. Best Wishes John C.
Quite right really, it's my "Baby"; many happy evenings/weekend spent underneath, on top and curled up in the footwells getting it just right and pretty. It's been a relationship of big big smiles at its voice, looks and performance. Point taken reference tax etc all I need is the sun to shine to show at at her best, roof off and a dry interesting road. I've got a gut feelling however "I'll be back" Again thanks to you all for the helpful posts and be careful out there. Best Wishes John C. Insurance wise you can get potential buyers to day insure themselves for a test drive and refund the cost if they buy (£25-£30 typically) and that will get rid of the "let's have a go" types.
Tax wise I think there is some clause about either doing it on-line or driving without a disc in place if the previous tax has lapsed so probably better to just put 6-months on it.
Tax wise I think there is some clause about either doing it on-line or driving without a disc in place if the previous tax has lapsed so probably better to just put 6-months on it.
That's my favourite quote of the year so far!
over_the_hill said:
Insurance wise you can get potential buyers to day insure themselves for a test drive and refund the cost if they buy (£25-£30 typically) and that will get rid of the "let's have a go" types.
Tax wise I think there is some clause about either doing it on-line or driving without a disc in place if the previous tax has lapsed so probably better to just put 6-months on it.
Nice idea with the insurance refund, or just don't let them wheel it. Surely the rozzers won't stick you with a penalty for no tax on a test drive?? That would be very uptight of them. Just tell them you are going to get an MOT if they get arsy.Tax wise I think there is some clause about either doing it on-line or driving without a disc in place if the previous tax has lapsed so probably better to just put 6-months on it.
Definitely get it roadworthy. Even the most mechanically aware of buyers will be looking for money off to cover contingencies if they don't have a chance to drive it, whereas a £50 MOT slip puts you in a much stronger bargaining position.
Have to say, I've not really noticed the phenomenon of tyre kickers when selling a car on PH. I'm sure they do exist, but I can imagine it's also a term used when people fail to sell optimistically priced or poorly described cars. My last two - a Caterham and a TVR - both went to the first people to phone up with a minimum of fuss.
Have to say, I've not really noticed the phenomenon of tyre kickers when selling a car on PH. I'm sure they do exist, but I can imagine it's also a term used when people fail to sell optimistically priced or poorly described cars. My last two - a Caterham and a TVR - both went to the first people to phone up with a minimum of fuss.
Loach1 said:
Nice idea with the insurance refund, or just don't let them wheel it. Surely the rozzers won't stick you with a penalty for no tax on a test drive?? That would be very uptight of them. Just tell them you are going to get an MOT if they get arsy.
You might just have to prove that it is booked in. If you are unlucky enough to pass any police vehicle linked to the naughty boys database, then you have only yourself to blame if you get done. It is a no brainer for them - offence, cleared up immediately. Also remember, if it isn't taxed and MOT'd, it's automatically not insured.....
Just advertise the car at £x plus £220 for the year's road tax, and a 12 month MOT does a lot to give confidence to the buyer - well worth the £25-£54 fee, depending on where you live.
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