quick question, my tax has expired. options?
quick question, my tax has expired. options?
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samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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My tax has ran out, completely my fault, its been a busy few weeks.

Anyway I need to drive it to the MOT on Thursday. Can I tax it online now and then drive it or will I have to go to the post office tomorrow and buy the disk so it can be displayed?

I think last time I taxed a car the day before it expired and you could drive displaying the old disk for 5 days. Not sure what the rules are now its 12 days out.
Am I likely to have earned myself a fine?

AlexRS2782

8,536 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Seeing as it expired a fair few days ago you're probably best doing it via the Post Office. At least that way you can display it straight away to avoid any issues when driving it to the MOT.

Shaw Tarse

31,903 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Is the mot still valid?

mike9009

11,012 posts

274 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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If the MOT is valid, just go and buy the tax from post office.

If the MOT has expired too, then you will not be able to tax the car anyway. Book the MOT in advance and you can drive to the MOT and back again without tax. If stopped you just need to prove the MOT is booked. I would suggest not driving in the short term or until the MOT is passed.

Mike

rockandrollmark

1,181 posts

254 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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I see no problem why you couldn't tax online and head on down there. Keep a copy of the email on your phone. I'm sure if plod did pull you over they'd understand. This is what I do if I don't get 'round to taxing in time. Shouldn't PNC update immediately anyway?

samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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rockandrollmark said:
I see no problem why you couldn't tax online and head on down there. Keep a copy of the email on your phone. I'm sure if plod did pull you over they'd understand. This is what I do if I don't get 'round to taxing in time. Shouldn't PNC update immediately anyway?
This was my thinking, the mot is still valid.

The_Burg

4,853 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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samdale said:
rockandrollmark said:
I see no problem why you couldn't tax online and head on down there. Keep a copy of the email on your phone. I'm sure if plod did pull you over they'd understand. This is what I do if I don't get 'round to taxing in time. Shouldn't PNC update immediately anyway?
This was my thinking, the mot is still valid.
After our Passat spat it's turbo i'm back in the MGF. No post office open after work Saturday or Sunday and needed car so taxed online and printed email out and kept in the car. Hopefully not an issue as the ANPR / police etc can clearly tell it's taxed. Just the Nigerian traffic warden mafia to watch for, luckily it's parked off road all day so can't be ticketed. Hopefully be through tomorrow, they usually come through very quickly.


Shaw Tarse

31,903 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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When did the "tax" run out?
Beginning of March?
(as anInternet expert, I think to get the drive with no disc you have to renew before the old one runs out?)

samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Shaw Tarse said:
When did the "tax" run out?
Beginning of March?
(as anInternet expert, I think to get the drive with no disc you have to renew before the old one runs out?)
This was also my thinking. I've heard of this 5 days thing but only think it applies if I were to tax it on the 28th Feb...

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

264 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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The_Burg said:
After our Passat spat it's turbo i'm back in the MGF. No post office open after work Saturday or Sunday and needed car so taxed online and printed email out and kept in the car. Hopefully not an issue as the ANPR / police etc can clearly tell it's taxed. Just the Nigerian traffic warden mafia to watch for, luckily it's parked off road all day so can't be ticketed. Hopefully be through tomorrow, they usually come through very quickly.
nono , the road tax ANPR database in a police vehicle is not a live database frown , although a policeperson at the roadside should then be able to check against the real live database plus you'll have your email receipt wink . "Failure to display" would be the worst consequence, but I'd suggest passing the attitude test would see you OK smile .

Here endeth today's lesson on why policing by ANPR database isn't the way forward until live databases are used in ANPR equipment rage .

samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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After further thinking, I'm leaning towards it being OK to tax online. If I tax online before I drive it then if I get pulled over I'll fall under the "I've paid for it but it hasn't arrived yet" rule. In my case I just don't know if I can be "done" for "failing to display last week"? Surely that process is automated as per the adverts they ran a while back and not something the police will sort out by the side of the road?

Basically I think I may still get a bking, but from an automatic reaction to expired tax rather than an on the spot thing as once I'm driving there is no "current" offence IYSWIM

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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A policeperson will be able to confirm but IIRC not having tax and not displaying a tax disc are two separate offences...

samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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davepoth said:
A policeperson will be able to confirm but IIRC not having tax and not displaying a tax disc are two separate offences...
I'm pretty sure they are.

My reckoning is that I am allowed the "not displaying" as I will have already taxed it. The "not having tax" offence I'll just have to wait and see if a fine has been generated for these past 2 weeks, but no matter how I chose to tax it, neither way will change the fact that that offence has been committed.
Therefore it doesn't matter how I go about taxing it as long as I do it pronto.

samdale

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2,860 posts

215 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Apparently you can get lucky if you're a tool and forget to tax your car.

I received a letter in the post from the DVLA dated the 15th saying "LAST CHANCE" and "You don't need to do anything if you have taxed your vehicle in the past few days"

Happy days. Still not sure what would have happened if I was pulled over during the first 12 days of March though. As it happened the only trip I made was to/from the MOT centre.