Q Plates - what replaced them?

[wildcat45]

Or do you still get them?

They are not issued any more. So how does it work now?

I saw a new MGF body shell online and got into one of those daydreams about building one to a bespoke spec. Then the dream turned all beaurocratic. What would you register it as?

Do cars built from spares now get a VOSA ticket and a normal plate?

[vx220]

I believe you could use a brand new bodyshell to re-shell using a donor and keep the donors reg?

I think the cat c/d system replaced "q" plates for written off cars

[thescamper]

As far as I am aware they do still exist, kits are still issued with them

[wildcat45]

Are they in the new format. QA 55 ABC sort of thing, or the old system?

[6cylGolf]

vx220 said:

I believe you could use a brand new bodyshell to re-shell using a donor and keep the donors reg?

I think the cat c/d system replaced "q" plates for written off cars

Q plates when issued to a standard production car were not for write off's but when the true identity of a vehicle could not be determined.

[ColinM50]

Have a look in the kitcars section for more info but to answer your question briefly, if you buy a brand new heritage bodyshell for an MGF and then put ALL new parts on it, then you can get a current new registration. Actually you're allowed one major secondhand compnonent e.g. engine but it has to be professionally refurbished.

Or, if you build a kit car, or your new MGF bodyshell and use the majority of the parts from one donor car, then you'll get what's called an age related plate. So if your MGF is 2003, then you'll get a 2003 number but not the number that's on the car now.

Then thirdly if you build your kit car or new MGF bodyshell using compnents from anywhere, so say a Rover V8 engine, Lancia gearbox, Sierra suspension etc etc, then you'll get a Q plate.

All of course subject to passing an IVA test.

And you can't really cheat on the first option since your new bodyshell won't have the correct VIN number and if you take that from your old bodyshell, well that's called ringing and you'd be subject to spending some time with the likes of that nice Mr Huhne and mad McVicar etc

[markCSC]

6cylGolf said:

Q plates when issued to a standard production car were not for write off's but when the true identity of a vehicle could not be determined.

Identity and or age

If you a have a car with a a 1997 body, 2001 engine, 1998 gearbox, 2002 brakes etc it would not longer be a 1997 car so would be issued with a Q plate.


https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/q-registra...


To keep an age related plate you need the following:

from https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.

Part	Points
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified*	5
Suspension (front and back) - original	2
Axles (both) - original	2
Transmission - original	2
Steering assembly - original	2
Engine - original	1

Edited by markCSC on Wednesday 13th March 11:28

Edited by markCSC on Wednesday 13th March 11:33

[AndyNetwork]

markCSC said:

6cylGolf said:

Q plates when issued to a standard production car were not for write off's but when the true identity of a vehicle could not be determined.

Identity and or age

If you a have a car with a a 1997 body, 2001 engine, 1998 gearbox, 2002 brakes etc it would not longer be a 1997 car so would be issued with a Q plate.


https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/q-registra...


To keep an age related plate you need the following:

from https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...

Your vehicle must have 8 or more points from the table below. 5 of these points must come from having the original or new and unmodified chassis, monocoque bodyshell or frame.

Part	Points
Chassis, monocoque bodyshell (body and chassis as one unit) or frame - original or new and unmodified*	5
Suspension (front and back) - original	2
Axles (both) - original	2
Transmission - original	2
Steering assembly - original	2
Engine - original	1

Edited by markCSC on Wednesday 13th March 11:28

Edited by markCSC on Wednesday 13th March 11:33

In which case, my old Rover should have a Q plate.

It was a 1993 Rover, but had a new engine and gearbox in 1994, after some monkey at the dealer managed to bugger them both up.

I replaced all the front suspension in 1998, as a result of damaging it in an accident, and found it cheaper to get all the bits second hand, and transfer the lot. (I was doing the work myself!)

Therefore, the only bits that were original was the body shell, and therefore would only have 5 points.

[Mr2Mike]

AndyNetwork said:

In which case, my old Rover should have a Q plate.

It was a 1993 Rover, but had a new engine and gearbox in 1994, after some monkey at the dealer managed to bugger them both up.

I replaced all the front suspension in 1998, as a result of damaging it in an accident, and found it cheaper to get all the bits second hand, and transfer the lot. (I was doing the work myself!)

Therefore, the only bits that were original was the body shell, and therefore would only have 5 points.

But the car was (presumably) registered from new, so there is no reason for it to be issued a Q plate due to ongoing repairs.

The only reason this would happen is if you significantly modified of the structure of the car so that it required an SVA test, or if you created your own Rover from an unregistered bodyshell and assorted secondhand components.