Likely insurance write off, how to keep ownership of wheels
Likely insurance write off, how to keep ownership of wheels
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SnipsSt

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238 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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(apologies if this has been discussed before, my search didn't find anything)

A friend [most likely] wrote her car off this morning (a smart-looking R50 MINI Cooper) frown

She has aftermarket wheels that she wants to keep (let's assume they weren't itemised in insurance policy).

A general Google suggests that the car remains hers until the insurance pays out, and if she talks to the insurance company, they will most likely let her return the car to standard before they value and pay out.

Assuming that's correct, is there anything else to be aware of here?


Edited by SnipsSt on Wednesday 13th March 10:36

wilbo83

1,552 posts

196 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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SnipsSt said:
(apologies if this has been discussed before, my search didn't find anything)

A friend [most likely] wrote her car off this morning (a natty '03 MINI Cooper) frown

She has aftermarket wheels that she wants to keep (let's assume they weren't itemised in insurance policy).

A general Google suggests that the car remains hers until the insurance pays out, and if she talks to the insurance company, they will most likely let her return the car to standard before they value and pay out.

Assuming that's correct, is there anything else to be aware of here?
Depending on the category, she should have the option to retain salvage of the car herself when she can either repair it to put back on the road or sell for spares / repair.

However, assuming that the wheels have not been declared then in theory her insurance is invalidated.

SnipsSt

Original Poster:

238 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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wilbo83 said:
Depending on the category, she should have the option to retain salvage of the car herself when she can either repair it to put back on the road or sell for spares / repair.
OK, thanks.

wilbo83 said:
However, assuming that the wheels have not been declared then in theory her insurance is invalidated.
OK, then let's assume they were declared wink

Sir Bagalot

7,111 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Why not change them now? I was in a similar position years back. Simply went to the storage yard, was allowed access to my car and proceeded to put the standard rims back on and take my alloys away.

Waiting for them to make a payout is a bit silly as they might then decide as they weren't listed that the car wasn't insured

hoppo4.2

1,548 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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go to the garage where its being stored get her to flutter her eye lashes and they may change over the rims for her.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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wilbo83 said:
However, assuming that the wheels have not been declared then in theory her insurance is invalidated.
As I understand it; it would only invalidate the insurance if the wheels were a factor in the accident.
Which is unlikely if they were normal size wheels.

SnipsSt

Original Poster:

238 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Snowboy said:
As I understand it; it would only invalidate the insurance if the wheels were a factor in the accident.
Which is unlikely if they were normal size wheels.
Thanks, that's my understanding too. Personally, I declare everything, but I like to assume common sense prevails where necessary.

Magic919

14,581 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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SnipsSt said:
I like to assume common sense prevails where necessary.
Not on here though, sadly.


Edited by Magic919 on Wednesday 13th March 10:56

RickRolled

339 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Wheels not delcared = put originals back on, job done.

Simple as that.

Denis O

2,141 posts

274 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Buy a set of steelies. Slap them on. Jobbs a good'un.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Denis O said:
Buy a set of steelies. Slap them on. Jobbs a good'un.
Since when did an R50 Cooper come with "steelies" as standard?

Denis O

2,141 posts

274 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
Denis O said:
Buy a set of steelies. Slap them on. Jobbs a good'un.
Since when did an R50 Cooper come with "steelies" as standard?
Unlikely it ever did but my suggestion still stands.

Freddy88FM

474 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Denis O said:
Unlikely it ever did but my suggestion still stands.
Still stands but ignores the point that it still technically invalidates her insurance. Depending on the company they can be incredibly pernickety... payouts minimise profits.

If you leave the wheels on then you're uninsured regardless of whether the wheels were a contributing factor to the crash, if you take them off and switch to standard you have to hope that investigators don't realise. My advice? The latter.

DannyCup172

43 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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So they weren't declared in the policy?

Has she considered that the insurance company may not pay out?

SnipsSt

Original Poster:

238 posts

238 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Thanks all.

It's all moot at the moment, as she may well have declared them, I just don't know at this time.

Freddy88FM

474 posts

165 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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SnipsSt said:
Thanks all.

It's all moot at the moment, as she may well have declared them, I just don't know at this time.
If they're declared then technically she'll need to leave them on. Your insurance policy covers your car as described to the insurance company.

Any deviation from this will make it possible for the insurance guys to wiggle out. Technically you've not supplied correct data ... similar to lying about points etc.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Isn't swapping wheels off a car effectively insurance fraud?

Snowboy

8,028 posts

182 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Changing the wheels on a car in no way invalidates the insurance in terms if a crash.

If anyone can find any case where new (normal) wheels invalidated the insurance I will buy them a bottle of Cognac.
It just doesn't happen.

It 'might' make a difference in terms of theft.
If it makes it more attractive to thieves, but that's clutching at straws.

Leebo310

174 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Snowboy said:
Changing the wheels on a car in no way invalidates the insurance in terms if a crash.

If anyone can find any case where new (normal) wheels invalidated the insurance I will buy them a bottle of Cognac.
It just doesn't happen.

It 'might' make a difference in terms of theft.
If it makes it more attractive to thieves, but that's clutching at straws.
I've been told directly by my insurance company that failing to declare changes to the wheels will invalidate the policy.
There was a whole thing in the news about winter tyres invalidating policies too.

I don't like Cognac though so don't worry smile



jgtv

2,130 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Snowboy said:
Changing the wheels on a car in no way invalidates the insurance in terms if a crash.

If anyone can find any case where new (normal) wheels invalidated the insurance I will buy them a bottle of Cognac.
It just doesn't happen.

It 'might' make a difference in terms of theft.
If it makes it more attractive to thieves, but that's clutching at straws.
What if shes gone into the back of someone or off the road and crashed because all her tyres are bald ditch finders, but she wants to keep her pretty wheels so its ok that she swaps them to the standard ones in her garage is it?

Granted she is still insured but it does change things doesn't it.