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Hello everyone, with the price of diesel ever increasing I've got a few questions regarding using red diesel.
Last year I used 14000 litres of regular diesel and if I do this again this year I will spend £20,300 based on the current £1.45 per litre.
I know you can get red diesel at 81p per litre this is a saving of nearly £9000!
I know customs and excise can seize your car but my car cory me £2500 and I've been driving legally on normal diesel covering 100,000 miles a year and never been stopped to be dip tested. If I decide sod it i will use red and got caught once in 12 months and they seized the car I would still be £6500 better off? And that's worst outcome as it could be just £500 for first time offence. Worth the gamble I ask myself.
And another thing I know that the evidence of using red diesel remains in the car even after a long time but what if you bought the car 3 months ago and the previous owner used red diesel? I mean how do we know if they had? Surely I wouldn't be fined for someone else's usage. We could be all driving around in a car which has previously had red diesel in!
Any views or facts.
Just for the record I'm not going to but it is an interesting thought to say that much money!
Last year I used 14000 litres of regular diesel and if I do this again this year I will spend £20,300 based on the current £1.45 per litre.
I know you can get red diesel at 81p per litre this is a saving of nearly £9000!
I know customs and excise can seize your car but my car cory me £2500 and I've been driving legally on normal diesel covering 100,000 miles a year and never been stopped to be dip tested. If I decide sod it i will use red and got caught once in 12 months and they seized the car I would still be £6500 better off? And that's worst outcome as it could be just £500 for first time offence. Worth the gamble I ask myself.
And another thing I know that the evidence of using red diesel remains in the car even after a long time but what if you bought the car 3 months ago and the previous owner used red diesel? I mean how do we know if they had? Surely I wouldn't be fined for someone else's usage. We could be all driving around in a car which has previously had red diesel in!
Any views or facts.
Just for the record I'm not going to but it is an interesting thought to say that much money!
Wodson said:
Hello everyone, with the price of diesel ever increasing I've got a few questions regarding using red diesel.
Last year I used 14000 litres of regular diesel and if I do this again this year I will spend £20,300 based on the current £1.45 per litre.
I know you can get red diesel at 81p per litre this is a saving of nearly £9000!
I know customs and excise can seize your car but my car cory me £2500 and I've been driving legally on normal diesel covering 100,000 miles a year and never been stopped to be dip tested. If I decide sod it i will use red and got caught once in 12 months and they seized the car I would still be £6500 better off? And that's worst outcome as it could be just £500 for first time offence. Worth the gamble I ask myself.
And another thing I know that the evidence of using red diesel remains in the car even after a long time but what if you bought the car 3 months ago and the previous owner used red diesel? I mean how do we know if they had? Surely I wouldn't be fined for someone else's usage. We could be all driving around in a car which has previously had red diesel in!
Any views or facts.
Just for the record I'm not going to but it is an interesting thought to say that much money!
You could make pretty much exactly the same argument in favour of driving without insurance, indeed committing any driving offence (the likelihood of getting caught/spotted vs money/time saved)Last year I used 14000 litres of regular diesel and if I do this again this year I will spend £20,300 based on the current £1.45 per litre.
I know you can get red diesel at 81p per litre this is a saving of nearly £9000!
I know customs and excise can seize your car but my car cory me £2500 and I've been driving legally on normal diesel covering 100,000 miles a year and never been stopped to be dip tested. If I decide sod it i will use red and got caught once in 12 months and they seized the car I would still be £6500 better off? And that's worst outcome as it could be just £500 for first time offence. Worth the gamble I ask myself.
And another thing I know that the evidence of using red diesel remains in the car even after a long time but what if you bought the car 3 months ago and the previous owner used red diesel? I mean how do we know if they had? Surely I wouldn't be fined for someone else's usage. We could be all driving around in a car which has previously had red diesel in!
Any views or facts.
Just for the record I'm not going to but it is an interesting thought to say that much money!
You are allowed to use red diesel in any vehicle that isn't taxed to be used on the highway. This includes vehicles which are SORN; You can legitimately run it on red diesel to drive it around a farm or similar. You can then put it back on the road and run it on white (regular diesel) without having ever broken the law.
So as far as I see it, evidence of red diesel in the fuel lines of a car that has at some point in it's life has been SORN does not immediately criminalise you. However, dipping your tank to find you're running on 10 gallons of the stuff will...
I also believe they can fine you based on how much they think you've used, so having no receipts for white diesel would probably make your position very difficult. They would work out how much revenue they've lost, and do their utmost to get that back.
So as far as I see it, evidence of red diesel in the fuel lines of a car that has at some point in it's life has been SORN does not immediately criminalise you. However, dipping your tank to find you're running on 10 gallons of the stuff will...
I also believe they can fine you based on how much they think you've used, so having no receipts for white diesel would probably make your position very difficult. They would work out how much revenue they've lost, and do their utmost to get that back.
tinoproductions said:
Got some friends with a farm that use it to fill up their cars.
Been doing it for a good 20 years and never and issue...
All clean, new cars, so less likely to be dip tested compared to an old banger being driven by scum.
Not worth the risk tbh
Key is that they have a reason for purchase, and I'd imagine storage facilities on-site.Been doing it for a good 20 years and never and issue...
All clean, new cars, so less likely to be dip tested compared to an old banger being driven by scum.
Not worth the risk tbh
Buying 50 litres a time from one of the few garages that sells it on the forecourt, and trying to come up with justifications for this.......nope, definitely not worth it.
Used chip oil from the local Fish and Chip shop will be a better and cheaper option.
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/introduction.h...
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/introduction.h...
FourWheelDrift said:
Used chip oil from the local Fish and Chip shop will be a better and cheaper option.
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/introduction.h...
Except that most Fish and Chip shops use beef dripping which is a bit... solid!http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/introduction.h...
FourWheelDrift said:
Commute in a tractor - http://farm.autotrader.co.uk/
And afaik you can't do this either. If you're travelling more than 40miles as the crow flies from base it has to be white. I also think it has to be used for agricultural purposes and not tax avoiding ones 
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