Knee problem - do I need a new one?
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Hope someone can give me a pointer here with a knee problem I'm having.
I'm 28, in good health, have been doing treadmill and cross trainer in the gym for about 6 - 8 months.
Whilst on holiday recently I did a lot of walking, probably 6 hours at a time across the city. A day or two after my return my left knee started aching, it's noticeably worse when going up or down stairs or an incline.
It cleared up after a couple of days, I even managed some time on a treadmill. Then, fast forward a few days and it started hurting again yesterday, got really bad at points and I had to start using the lift at work etc.
Today it was bad again, but then this evening it cleared up of it's own accord. Sitting here on the sofa I just felt a barely perceptible "shift" of something in my knee and the ache returned immediately. I've got a weird feeling to the right hand side of the knee cap and it's aching to walk again.
Any ideas which bit's faulty? Can I get a new one at Halfords or something?
I have a funny feeling that this could be a right pain to get diagnosed
I'm 28, in good health, have been doing treadmill and cross trainer in the gym for about 6 - 8 months.
Whilst on holiday recently I did a lot of walking, probably 6 hours at a time across the city. A day or two after my return my left knee started aching, it's noticeably worse when going up or down stairs or an incline.
It cleared up after a couple of days, I even managed some time on a treadmill. Then, fast forward a few days and it started hurting again yesterday, got really bad at points and I had to start using the lift at work etc.
Today it was bad again, but then this evening it cleared up of it's own accord. Sitting here on the sofa I just felt a barely perceptible "shift" of something in my knee and the ache returned immediately. I've got a weird feeling to the right hand side of the knee cap and it's aching to walk again.
Any ideas which bit's faulty? Can I get a new one at Halfords or something?
I have a funny feeling that this could be a right pain to get diagnosed
Now that all sounds technical, I've just been running naturally, I guess I probably hit the heel part of my foot first...
Put in my Occ Health Physio referral today so hopefully I'll get to see one next week.
Today has been a mixed day, mostly pretty much ok, but this evening it's flared back up again, the discomfort really is either on or off, it doesn't fade or reappear gradually at all.
Put in my Occ Health Physio referral today so hopefully I'll get to see one next week.
Today has been a mixed day, mostly pretty much ok, but this evening it's flared back up again, the discomfort really is either on or off, it doesn't fade or reappear gradually at all.
Magic919 said:
Surely heal (sic) striking would make it better.
No... If you're landing on your your leg is going to be straight. So all the landing force will go straight into your boney heal and be transmitted straight up the leg into the knee wher there is no shock absorbtion.Land in you forefoot and you go the movement of your arch, ankle and whole calf muscle and tendons to spring and absorb the shock. It's how the leg evolved for us to be able to run, we're runner not walkers. Everyone shifted to heal striking when the shoe manufacturers decided by putting padding under the heel so we could land on it for a bigger stride. Unsurprisingly injury rates have risen phenomenally since then.
Watch slow motion videos of elite athletes, they're all forward on their toes.
It's a controversial subject so feel free to do your research but I've spent years looking into it.
Check out the minimalist running thread or more information on it.
On a related note, and sorry for the hijack, but a few years ago I broke my kneecap into six pieces...
After the initial recovery after cast, it's been fine, but recently if I jump or run my kneecap noticeably shifts up and down, making a 'thock' noise...
Doing leg raise weights gives a very graunchy sound.
Any advice? I work all over the place during the week, so trying to organise physio will be an absolute nightmare without me taking time off work (very difficult as I'm currently working in Zurich for a few months during the week).
After the initial recovery after cast, it's been fine, but recently if I jump or run my kneecap noticeably shifts up and down, making a 'thock' noise...
Doing leg raise weights gives a very graunchy sound.
Any advice? I work all over the place during the week, so trying to organise physio will be an absolute nightmare without me taking time off work (very difficult as I'm currently working in Zurich for a few months during the week).
InertialTooth45 said:
Magic919 said:
Surely heal (sic) striking would make it better.
No... If you're landing on your your leg is going to be straight. So all the landing force will go straight into your boney heal and be transmitted straight up the leg into the knee wher there is no shock absorbtion.Land in you forefoot and you go the movement of your arch, ankle and whole calf muscle and tendons to spring and absorb the shock. It's how the leg evolved for us to be able to run, we're runner not walkers. Everyone shifted to heal striking when the shoe manufacturers decided by putting padding under the heel so we could land on it for a bigger stride. Unsurprisingly injury rates have risen phenomenally since then.
Watch slow motion videos of elite athletes, they're all forward on their toes.
It's a controversial subject so feel free to do your research but I've spent years looking into it.
Check out the minimalist running thread or more information on it.
Magic919 said:
InertialTooth45 said:
Magic919 said:
Surely heal (sic) striking would make it better.
No... If you're landing on your your leg is going to be straight. So all the landing force will go straight into your boney heal and be transmitted straight up the leg into the knee wher there is no shock absorbtion.Land in you forefoot and you go the movement of your arch, ankle and whole calf muscle and tendons to spring and absorb the shock. It's how the leg evolved for us to be able to run, we're runner not walkers. Everyone shifted to heal striking when the shoe manufacturers decided by putting padding under the heel so we could land on it for a bigger stride. Unsurprisingly injury rates have risen phenomenally since then.
Watch slow motion videos of elite athletes, they're all forward on their toes.
It's a controversial subject so feel free to do your research but I've spent years looking into it.
Check out the minimalist running thread or more information on it.
Things haven't improved very much I'm afraid to say. I went to the doctors earlier this week who told me to leave it another month before coming back to see him.
I have a physio appointment at work on 2nd April which will hopefully give me some pointers. My friend has suggested it may be a lower back problem, manifesting itself through my knee, and funnily enough, I have had a bit of a slight twinge in it for a while but nothing that has caused much trouble.
I'll probably wait until I've seen the physio at work, but what are people's opinions on seeing a Chiropractor? I like the idea that they may be able to take a bit of a hollistic approach, looking at back and knees as a whole, but don't know whether they are worth the money. Anyone any experience?
I have a physio appointment at work on 2nd April which will hopefully give me some pointers. My friend has suggested it may be a lower back problem, manifesting itself through my knee, and funnily enough, I have had a bit of a slight twinge in it for a while but nothing that has caused much trouble.
I'll probably wait until I've seen the physio at work, but what are people's opinions on seeing a Chiropractor? I like the idea that they may be able to take a bit of a hollistic approach, looking at back and knees as a whole, but don't know whether they are worth the money. Anyone any experience?
I'm in the same boat. Knee is sore after running or walking quickly in leather soled shoes, clicks like mad going up and down stairs- I'm pretty sure that regularly playing football on unforgiving 3g pitches hasn't helped things.
Anyway, went to the GP who referred me for an x-ray which didn't show anything (only shows bone, not tissue), then got referred to the NHS physio for 6 or 7 sessions who didn't know what was wrong with it but still felt it acceptable to offer me cortisone injections which I declined.
I then got referred to an NHS knee specialist who told me the minute that my arse hit the chair that my knee is fine and this is all in my head.
The NHS will do anything they can to not send you for a scan due to the cost.
I'm now investigating going private.
Anyway, went to the GP who referred me for an x-ray which didn't show anything (only shows bone, not tissue), then got referred to the NHS physio for 6 or 7 sessions who didn't know what was wrong with it but still felt it acceptable to offer me cortisone injections which I declined.
I then got referred to an NHS knee specialist who told me the minute that my arse hit the chair that my knee is fine and this is all in my head.
The NHS will do anything they can to not send you for a scan due to the cost.
I'm now investigating going private.
ked as I had history) and I paid a surgeon to tell me the result. The MRI was about 200 and surgeon time about 160.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff